Grateful Red is just dated and bad. Not even really evocative of a student section name.
What are some other bad ones? Oregon has the Pit Crew, which was great when they played at The Pit.. which ended in 2001. So it’s another name out of time.
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What are some other bad ones? Oregon has the Pit Crew, which was great when they played at The Pit.. which ended in 2001. So it’s another name out of time.
I thought he meant they couldn't run an offense due to the slew of injuries/illness. Can't plan when you don't know who's playing.
To be more clear I’m not saying we shouldn’t be brining in talent. There’s an alternate universe where we are starting Sincere/DGL/Ty/Amani/Morez and getting crushed in B1G play. I’m more talking about things like bringing in Tre White to compete with Ty, Ty redshirts and then Tre and Ty are likely gonna transfer at the end of the season anyways. Things like bringing in Boswell, to start, getting outplayed by DGL and still starting. Letting Goode walk and bringing in the “upgrade” with Humrichous who’s shooting 35% from 3 (32% in B1G play), while Goode is at 40% (45% in B1G play). I mean Carey Booth was supposed to be one of those high talent guys, and he just played 6 minutes in a game with Ivisic on the verge of death. It’s frustrating as a fan to watch Underwood favor new guys who are frankly not very good for the new shiny toy.
I feel like this beats everywhere but the bush here. When you've got a whole bunch of shooters well below their career averages, a bunch of other players underperforming, and you've got two players who just weren't good enough for this level in Booth and Ben who our coaches put a heavy emphasis of our resources into bringing here, the common theme is poor coaching. At the end of the day, our roster has too many flaws and our team has been way too poorly prepared for games to overcome the injuries and sicknesses we've had in the team.
I don’t think it is as much “new shiny toy” as it is a further shift in offensive philosophy — specifically emphasis on 3-point shooting and spacing as well as positional size. Have the moves worked out? Obviously not like we would have liked. But it is also easy to say it was a bad strategy once you’ve seen results. And it is never a bad strategy to try and improve talent.
Booth is a mystery. He some how got broken. But he didn’t “replace” anyone. Dain was not coming back. He wasn’t happy with his role and didn’t fit the offense well.
I agree it is frustrating to see how things have worked out. I’m certainly not happy with the season. You don’t have many posts, so I’m not sure if you were against all the other moves you mention when they happened. I wasn’t, and I don’t think the majority of the board were either.
There were plenty of people that might not have been high on Ben, but most people seemed more concerned that Goode was transferring to IU than that he was transferring at all. It’s not like he had a great overall season last year. I think most people were very happy to see Boswell brought in. His overall stats are on par with last year’s except up in rebounds, slightly higher in TOs and a huge decrease in 3-pt shooting % (must be because he got fletched //s). That last one is the killer. But why would one expect a player like him to be down 15 percentage points from his career average coming into the season. I give DGL credit. I’m sure he wasn’t happy with his initial role, but he worked hard, gave team a spark off the bench and worked his way into starting lineup before his illness threw a kink into things.
I also had no problem with bringing in Tre White. Adding talent and depth is a good thing. Unlike DGL though, seems like Ty was unwilling to come off the bench, work hard, compete, and increase his role during the season. It’s not like he would not have had a role and it role likely would have gone up as season went on. But we’ll never know cuz, ummmm cuz, he wanted assurances he’d start? I don’t particularly blame him for red shirting. He has to do what he feels is best for him. But I don’t pine for a guy who folded up his table before season starts. And in my book he certainly forfeited his chance to be called an Every Day Guy.
I think you're onto something here. Instead of taking ice baths, we should be soaking overnight in the sweat of Ayo, Kofi, TJ, and the like.
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How is it dated? Specifically 'grateful red'.
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You think it's dumber than "Paint Crew?" Or "Zona Zoo?"
I don't really think KJ has gotten worse with his habits.
He just got into conference play where you are consistently playing tough opponents and teams have nearly 30 games of scouting on him and the Illini offense.
Every opponents defense focus is on him and opposing defenses are blitzing him on ball screens or when he drives and daring someone else to beat them.
Once again we lost a lot of technical coaching when Frazier and TA left.
But...but....but.....DGL gambles on defense sometimes though! Apparently in our staff's opinion that warrants not giving him minutes while we continue to play dudes who are softer than dog poo.
Pay no attention to the fact that he's shooting almost 47% from the field this season (2nd highest on the team for a guard) and brings the most energy and fire when he's in the game, gotta clean up those 1-2 defensive gambles a game!
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You forgot "Izzone".
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If he gets it together like Curbelo in the B1G tourney then it was all worth it.
DevILLDawg
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Ant Wrights breakdown really did a great job highlighting it....
Kylan is unplayable with KJ. Completely negates what KJ does
Huh, always seemed to me Brad learned that from Micah Shrewsberry.
Back in July …
Underwood certainly was influenced by the Shrewsberry booty-ball offense, but Underwood has clearly credited Jay Wright with pushing him to lean harder into it with Marcus Domask.
I've read a lot of harsh post on here and on X. At times I have been hard on the team. Our team is built up with fighters that go out and play when sick or injured. So damn proud of this group, win or lose. This is a team of real men, no whiners. I'm excited for each and every game we have left, wherever that may be. We have to remember that we are the youngest team in the Big 10. We are already overachieving with a terribly young group. This is and always was a rebuilding year. I cannot wait what is in store for the future!!!!
He learned the concept from Shrews, but Jay Wright is the one that told him to lean into it full time instead of dabbling with it. Underwood said that publicly on more than one occasion.
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That's what I was thinking but I know nothing about the NBA/agents/etc.
He should call Wright up now and see if he has any tips
He should have him on speed dial.He should call Wright up now and see if he has any tips
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Yes, some don't gamble on defense but just get flat out smoked time after time and that's ok because they were in the right spot and just let someone score right through them or so slow on their feet that people just go around them. The latter people get 30+ minutes and DGL gets minimal.
It sure would be nice to have someone that the opposing team can't sag off of, to double KJ. Who is the person that's fast and athletic enough to drive and finish at the rim on our team if someone plays off of them? I just don't get it.
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