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We are not a rebuilding program. We are a reloading program that should be competing for championships every year with how the portal works now. Top 4 in the B1G and competitive enough to make a final four run annually. Yes we will get upset and not always make a run but that should be the goal. We don’t necessarily get older next year when our top two freshman are going pro. Morez might be gone. It’s been a disappointing year that isn’t over yet and we could certainly make a run in March. Please don’t act like we have a group of 5-7 players returning as a main core group to build around for next season.
I'm not so sure about that, as we keep hearing how programs like St Johns & BYU have far more NIL than we do. Are we even top 20 in NIL?
Uh yes. You think KJ and Riley are cheap? Morez and Tomi aren’t playing for free. And it’s been reported Ben is making a ton. Boswell and White cost decent money. We have the funds but it has to be spent wisely. And can’t be afraid to use players differently who aren’t performing even if the make more money than others.
Neither you or I know the actual numbers. I don't think any players are 'cheap', I'm just going off of what the guys who DO KNOW what those numbers are saying... and its been said on numerous occasions that there are a lot of programs out there that dwarf us in NIL.
Its been reported that BYU is paying for one player (Dybansta) about 3x our total NIL number for our entire team.
This article did a pretty good job explaining that everything is an educated guess really.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...-do-you-believe-have-the-best-nil-situations/
I would imagine that St. John’s skyrockets up the list after this season.
Why?
Top 5 feels very different from top 20. Do you not believe we have enough money to compete every year for a big ten title and final four run?? It’s about placing the correct pieces together not just stacking the best talent. Some of our best teams under Brad didn’t have the lottery talent that we have this year and we’ve had better results.
The Wild Wild ... not West, but NCAA ... needs to have a Come to Jesus moment. This is not about the Illini (for me it is!) --- this is about all of division one college basketball. Check that: it is about all of college basketball fandom. (And downstream, the players. Curious, isn't it, that I didn't put the coaches in the first two ranks. Hm)
Will he take calls at half time? During time outs?
Jay Wright is one of the finest coaches of this half-century. Hence he is too smart to take calls now. Grrrr ...
DGL>Kylan X100
is there evidence of this? NIL is very subjective. Seems like the insiders have a clue but how can anyone verify NIL by school?
Kylans stats are on par with last year? What stats are you looking at? Hes shoot like 10% worse from 2 and 3 pt
Nice find, thanks!
Be hard to argue the validity of the list as they apparently polled actual, sitting college basketball coaches... but most of the teams at the top of that list this season range from 'meh' to 'absolute doo doo'. Guess it just confirms that NIL doesn't have to directly correlate with on-court success.
Ben is not making a "ton" of money. Better than me this year I'm guessing though
Somehow a rumor started on here that he was making 7 figures which isn't true.
Did you just stop reading abruptly once you thought you read something with which you disagreed? In the same exact sentence I say “huge decrease in 3-pt shooting %,” and say 2 sentences later “down 15 percentage points from his career average coming into the season.” So you were wrong on 3-pt % (decrease is actually worse) and, unless ESPN stats and my math are wrong, his 2-pt % is actually quite a bit higher this year versus last (49.6% versus 41.5%). And to answer your question, stats I was looking at:
Points — 9.6 ppg last year versus 10.9 ppg this year
Rebounds — 2.3 versus 4.9
Assists — 3.8 vs 3.2
Steals — 1.4 versus 1.2
Blocks — 0.1 versus 0.2
TOs — 1.7 versus 2.1
Lol! What a weird and useless comparison.
DGL is a warrior.
He is no where near what Kylan is.
Comparing the two is like comparing acre-feet to meters/Kg.
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Except they are fighting for the same minutes. Kylan’s defense is a great tool but we just need more help on offense and with energy. DGL needs the minutes more at this point.
Honestly I think DGL should be the main guard next to Kasparis. If teams are going to focus on Kasparis then DGL can use that space to cut to the basket or drive to the basket and score inside which Kylan doesn't really do well.
Kylan can back up Kasparis and play the point and give DGL some breathers but I'd like to DGL start getting 25-30 minutes of shared court time with Kasparis.
Kylan can back up Kasparis and play the point and give DGL some breathers but I'd like to DGL start getting 25-30 minutes of shared court time with Kasparis.
One can be proud of the team, acknowledge they are playing as hard as they can given a number of unfortunate happenstances and still acknowledge something is off.
Brad entered the season returning only one player. Losing at least 5 to the portal. Most of whom start at their new D1 schools. Brad gave off strong hints that the replacement players were needed as upgrades over the guys they touted as great recruits earlier. (positional size and shooting) As the season has progressed that is clearly not the case at all positions. Worse, for a "development program" the new players aren't playing at close to the level they had at prior stops. Even earlier in the year when the team was healthy.
Down two senior assistants going into the season, he field promoted two corporals to major and promoted his son to general. The coaching strategy of shooting the the highest rate of 3s at the 2nd lowest percentages on the B1G, has even normally complacent B1G TV analysts questioning its viability.
Right now, the Illinois men's basketball team is not being run at a level one would expect a coach given top 10 compensation to be run. We all hope as fans that changes soon.
Brad entered the season returning only one player. Losing at least 5 to the portal. Most of whom start at their new D1 schools. Brad gave off strong hints that the replacement players were needed as upgrades over the guys they touted as great recruits earlier. (positional size and shooting) As the season has progressed that is clearly not the case at all positions. Worse, for a "development program" the new players aren't playing at close to the level they had at prior stops. Even earlier in the year when the team was healthy.
Down two senior assistants going into the season, he field promoted two corporals to major and promoted his son to general. The coaching strategy of shooting the the highest rate of 3s at the 2nd lowest percentages on the B1G, has even normally complacent B1G TV analysts questioning its viability.
Right now, the Illinois men's basketball team is not being run at a level one would expect a coach given top 10 compensation to be run. We all hope as fans that changes soon.
I think that’s more of what my point was originally meant to be. We have enough resources to compete every year. The ball won’t always bounce our way and March if fickle but we should expect to be in those conversations annually. Think how much harder it is to compete in football. But look what happens when you go 10-3 and win the Citrus Bowl. Money comes in. Recruits look at you differently. Thanks for having a decent conversation on here without attacking each other. My first response to you was probably too harsh because I have high expectations for this program and I think all of our fans should.
Since the USC game hes shooting under 15% for 3.
Very true. He’s also shooting about 50% from 2 during that span I believe.
My point in my original post was about roster construction/personnel and that most people were very happy when he signed with Illini. There isn’t much doubt that he has not met expectations, but overall his stats other than 3-pt % are on par with his previous numbers. As I also pointed out in OP, I don’t think it is common for someone who shot that well in past to drop 15 percentage points. I mean S. Harris is down by more than 20 percentage points, but he wasn’t as good in his freshman year at Illinois as Boswell had bean in the past.
I think DGL should be taking some minutes away from KB. He has earned them. But Kylan overall has not been atrocious and there is plenty of blame to go around this season and during this miserable stretch.
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