YouTube TV may change college football

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The Internet’s official home for cat videos announced the creation of YouTubeTV, a streaming service includes nearly every channel on which college football is played — ABC, CBS, FOX, CBS, the ESPN family of networks, Fox Sports 1 and BTN. The best part for consumers? YouTube TV will cost only $35 a month, with personalization options for up to six members on each account.

But one doesn’t have to squint too hard to see how the best part for consumers could be the worst news for conferences. ESPN’s business model is funded by a $7 per month per subscriber fee charged to each cable and satellite provider, a cost which providers then pass along to consumers. But, as we know, cable subscriptions are dropping — 40 percent of millennials do not have cable — and, as a result, ESPN subscriptions are dropping by about 300,000 per month (other networks are also losing subscribers; they just don’t have as many subscribers to lose). We haven’t seen how much of that $35 monthly subscription will make its way to Bristol, but if ESPN doesn’t get 20 percent of the overall take, the entire college football ecosystem becomes an expensive game of If You Give a Mouse a Cookie:

If ESPN makes less money, it will have less money to pay conferences
If conferences make less money from TV, they will have less money to give their schools

If schools bring home less money, they’ll have less money to pay coaches

The reality is likely a lot more complicated than that. It’s not like Comcast, Spectrum, DirecTV and the like will take their demise lying down.

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I hadn't considered these ramifications yet, but I'm all on board with this if I can get BTN access on the west coast for just $35 a month.
 
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illini92024

Orange County, CA
Google has been moving in this direction for some time now. I live in the Silicon Beach area of LA where Google is among many of the major players in video production. With the evolution of YouTube and Chromecast Google has gained popularity offering video content via the internet. This is leading to the downfall of cable providers due to the fact that they refuse to offer alacarte programming(who wants to have to purchase 500 mostly useless channels). With Google fiber coming to a city near you, I can definately see them moving towards a competitive TV programming provider. Now that Netflix, Hulu and Amazon Prime have opened the door we are seeing more providers such as ESPN, HBO and others in discussions about offering subscriptions via individual internet subscribers. Already you can purchase sports packages relatively cheap campared to cable on Sling TV, although I have never tried it yet. The future seems to be TV via internet with subscribers selection only the networks they want to watch. ESPN will not be left out of that pot full of cash nor FS1 or CBS sports, etc. It will be interesting to see how this all evolves.
 
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IlliniRocketFan

Rochester, IL
This might not be such a bad thing. I can't imagine that these channels are letting YouTube charge money to broadcast their content for free. This could mean more money for ESPN, FOX and all the rest to help cover their conference contracts. You know YouTube has to have permission to do this, so lets see what happens.
 
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You can get that right now with PS Vue.

Got rid of direct TV about 9 months ago. It is a little more inconvenient to find shows. But I am very happy with it. Get everything I want to see, and a DVR. Got rid of Directv and save about $65.00 a month getting the same programs.

I think every service will go to streaming. Then eventually after they all shake out, everyone will be back to charging the same price again.
 
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I saw this as well, will likely be getting it when it becomes available. Hopefully the delay isn't too terrible for live sports.

This is definitely the short term future, the question is if/when a more a la carte style for television enters the mix (pick your channels)
 
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EJ33

San Francisco
DirecTVNow is another streaming service that is $35/month if you sign up now. Pretty much the same channels as YouTube Now.

SlingTV includes ESPN and is only $20/month.

Those big media payouts definitely have some risk.
 
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Serious Late

Peoria via Denver via Ann Arbor via Albuquerque vi
Even if you don't want to cut the cord, you can save a lot of money just by calling your cable provider and dropping that phrase. I had no intention of giving up my Directv service, but by calling them and suggesting I would, I was given a $50 per month reduction on my bill, an upgraded Sunday Ticket package and access to Showtime. Not too shabby.

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KBLEE

Montgomery, IL
The biggest issue for these internet based TV services is going to be ISPs creating / enforcing data caps. Comcast has already rolled out 300GB per month caps in several markets, and is rumored to push it nationwide sometime this year or next. If one is getting all of their cable TV / Netflix, etc. via internet, it will be very easy to exceed 300GB. So - the option they will force consumers into is purchasing a larger or unlimited data package which could end up costing as much as they were paying before cutting the cord.
 
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illynifan34

That's a winner!!
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The biggest issue for these internet based TV services is going to be ISPs creating / enforcing data caps. Comcast has already rolled out 300GB per month caps in several markets, and is rumored to push it nationwide sometime this year or next. If one is getting all of their cable TV / Netflix, etc. via internet, it will be very easy to exceed 300GB. So - the option they will force consumers into is purchasing a larger or unlimited data package which could end up costing as much as they were paying before cutting the cord.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/6/13192832/comcast-xfinity-home-internet-data-caps-one-terabyte

This indicates it is 1 TB.
 
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KBLEE

Montgomery, IL
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This might not be such a bad thing. I can't imagine that these channels are letting YouTube charge money to broadcast their content for free. This could mean more money for ESPN, FOX and all the rest to help cover their conference contracts. You know YouTube has to have permission to do this, so lets see what happens.

It's not going to make up for the loss of revenue from dwindling cable subs. As per the section I quoted, ESPN is getting $7 from all subscribers and right now is having significant financial problems. They've been laying off employees and jettisoning a lot of their higher priced talent to save money. They'll get some money back via these services, but again nowhere near the revenue they've been getting.

This is part of an interesting transition to how we get our content. Just like how Netflix has gone from delivering other people's programs to generating their own content. It should allow us all to be able to have better choices in the long run but it remains to be seen if the costs really go down. I'd sign up for any of these but right now they wouldn't really save me any money.
 
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breadman

Herndon, VA
So I'm sure you all know AT&T bought Directv last year or so. A few months back I came across an article, I think it was on Yahoo finance, that said AT&T is looking to retire Directv's satellites 3 to 5 years down the road, and go to streaming instead.
 
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DrewD007

Woodridge, IL
The biggest issue for these internet based TV services is going to be ISPs creating / enforcing data caps. Comcast has already rolled out 300GB per month caps in several markets, and is rumored to push it nationwide sometime this year or next. If one is getting all of their cable TV / Netflix, etc. via internet, it will be very easy to exceed 300GB. So - the option they will force consumers into is purchasing a larger or unlimited data package which could end up costing as much as they were paying before cutting the cord.

Not only that the new FCC chair wants to gut net neutrality so ISPs could end up charging content providers in order to not be throttled which will also likely increase the cost.
 
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TEYPAY

Springfield
So I'm sure you all know AT&T bought Directv last year or so. A few months back I came across an article, I think it was on Yahoo finance, that said AT&T is looking to retire Directv's satellites 3 to 5 years down the road, and go to streaming instead.

Might be difficult to in some places with limited access to internet / bad phone coverage / etc. (very rural areas) -- those places almost always rely on the satellite / receiver / etc.
 
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DanvIllini

Super Lurker
Danville, IL
Not only that the new FCC chair wants to gut net neutrality so ISPs could end up charging content providers in order to not be throttled which will also likely increase the cost.



This is something that I hope most people are contacting their reps about.


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kcib8130

Parts Unknown
Quick question: how is this different than what cable channels do on other streaming services?

Because when I want to watch the ABC app on my Apple TV, for example, I have to login with my provider info, proving that i have a subscription. How is it that YouTube can get around that?
 
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Quick question: how is this different than what cable channels do on other streaming services?

Because when I want to watch the ABC app on my Apple TV, for example, I have to login with my provider info, proving that i have a subscription. How is it that YouTube can get around that?

Youtube is replacing your cable provider in this instance. You're not logging into the ABC app to play ABC on the internet, you're getting it on youtube. But if you wanted to watch on the ABC app, you'd use youtube credentials to do so instead of DirectTV/Comcast/whatever
 
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kcib8130

Parts Unknown
Youtube is replacing your cable provider in this instance. You're not logging into the ABC app to play ABC on the internet, you're getting it on youtube. But if you wanted to watch on the ABC app, you'd use youtube credentials to do so instead of DirectTV/Comcast/whatever

Understood, and this seems like a monumental package deal that would be in the billions of dollars to acquire the rights to those stations. Also, wouldn't those networks have television contracts in place?

This just seems like a benchmark deal in terms of dollars spent.
 
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Understood, and this seems like a monumental package deal that would be in the billions of dollars to acquire the rights to those stations. Also, wouldn't those networks have television contracts in place?

This just seems like a benchmark deal in terms of dollars spent.

The major difference here between Sling, Vue, etc is that this has CBS. I don't believe the other ones were able to get those. But really, it's fairly similar to those products with a bigger name that has better infrastructure for this sort of thing in place.
 
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The major difference here between Sling, Vue, etc is that this has CBS. I don't believe the other ones were able to get those. But really, it's fairly similar to those products with a bigger name that has better infrastructure for this sort of thing in place.

From what I've read, the initial youtubeTV launch is only going to be in markets where they've also been able to acquire rights to the local OTA networks as well. So it may be initially available in very limited and probably major metro areas only.
 
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From what I've read, the initial youtubeTV launch is only going to be in markets where they've also been able to acquire rights to the local OTA networks as well. So it may be initially available in very limited and probably major metro areas only.

That wouldn't surprise me, but I would be surprised if there was a major time gap there between initial launch and expansion.
 
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KrushCow31

Former Krush Cow
Chicago, IL
As a millennial (barf) I dumped cable this year. I bought a $15 antenna on Amazon and I get ABC, NBC, CBS, and multiple FOX channels all in HD. All I need for live sports. I actually get 3 football games (Chicago, Indy, and Detroit) on FOX local channels on my antenna vs just 1 on cable.

During Big Ten season I paid $35 for PS Vue so I could watch conference basketball/Football and then I unsubscribe. I don't need to pay all that money in the Summer when I never watch cable. The way cable is structured now is a dying scam. People my age aren't going to pay $100/month to watch crap TV programs when we can stream it all for free or buy a cheap antenna that transmits HD channels.
 
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Ransom Stoddard

Ordained Dudeist Priest
Bloomington, IL
As a millennial (barf) I dumped cable this year. I bought a $15 antenna on Amazon and I get ABC, NBC, CBS, and multiple FOX channels all in HD. All I need for live sports. I actually get 3 football games (Chicago, Indy, and Detroit) on FOX local channels on my antenna vs just 1 on cable.

During Big Ten season I paid $35 for PS Vue so I could watch conference basketball/Football and then I unsubscribe. I don't need to pay all that money in the Summer when I never watch cable. The way cable is structured now is a dying scam. People my age aren't going to pay $100/month to watch crap TV programs when we can stream it all for free or buy a cheap antenna that transmits HD channels.

What streaming services do you use that are free?