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Old Apr 19, 2017, 03:18 PM   #551
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Hopefully we don't misplay this and end up with neither.....something tells me it might.
If we don't land either, it will not be because we "misplayed" it. This continued idea on here of scaring off another player or offending them because we are recruiting another player is ridiculous. Most players at their level are very confident in their ability.

They either believe they will play over the other guy or they will play on the court at the same time. And in today's game, you can put 3 guards out there together and let them go no matter if it says they're a PG, CG, SG (assuming of course you have at least one PG, which has been a problem for us). I can guarantee you that Smith and Moore have looked at our current guards and don't see one guy that they think is better than them. That's how they think, and in this case they're probably correct.

Also, if this was such a big deal, why would Smith be so high on MSU, who has a top 40 PG in Winston who looks to be a 4 year player, in addition to other young guards like Langford and McQuaid? Players can coexist. Moore will not be the reason we lose Smith.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 03:33 PM   #552
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Hopefully we don't misplay this and end up with neither.....something tells me it might.
Why is this even a thing? Why would Smith feel threatened by Moore? Smith can play 1-3 (even a 4 in a small lineup), and he'd have a season under his belt by the time Moore is eligible. So...he feels some kinda way about Moore but is considering Kentucky and MSU both having burger boys?
If both commit we'd be deep with talented guards (I know Captain Obvious)


Why no Carlton Bragg updates? A low key commit somewhere else already?
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 04:07 PM   #553
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 04:11 PM   #554
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There's an incredibly simple solve for that.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 04:18 PM   #555
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Arizona State, Cincinnati, Illinois, NC State and Xavier are the final five for Kansas transfer Carlton Bragg, source tells D1Vision.
https://twitter.com/BLUEChip_Miller/...19724089274368
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 04:39 PM   #556
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Arizona State, Cincinnati, Illinois, NC State and Xavier are the final five for Kansas transfer Carlton Bragg, source tells D1Vision.
https://twitter.com/BLUEChip_Miller/...19724089274368


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Old Apr 19, 2017, 04:42 PM   #557
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Arizona State, Cincinnati, Illinois, NC State and Xavier are the final five for Kansas transfer Carlton Bragg, source tells D1Vision.
https://twitter.com/BLUEChip_Miller/...19724089274368
Man, besides the two schools in Cincy this list seems all over the map/spectrum. Hoping that bodes well since we were the only one on his previous final list.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 05:29 PM   #558
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UMass freshmen DeJon Jarreau and Brison Gresham are transferring. Jarreau was a former ESPN 100 prospect.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 05:45 PM   #559
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Where did Bragg play HS ball? I lost track of Charlie Moore. He was from Morgan Park,right? How many years of eligibility will he have and what's our chances getting either one?
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 05:55 PM   #560
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Where did Bragg play HS ball? I lost track of Charlie Moore. He was from Morgan Park,right? How many years of eligibility will he have and what's our chances getting either one?
Via Angela-St Joseph Cleveland, Ohio HS. Moore will sit one year and have three years of eligibility left (5 to play 4).

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Old Apr 19, 2017, 05:55 PM   #561
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Where did Bragg play HS ball? I lost track of Charlie Moore. He was from Morgan Park,right? How many years of eligibility will he have and what's our chances getting either one?
Bragg is from Ohio. Moore played at Morgan Park. Moore will sit out a year and have 3 years left.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 06:58 PM   #562
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Bragg's skill and range suits BU's system well. I would say he's an upgrade from MF. Make it happen BU!


Really play different positions in BU offense. MF is mostly a 5...plus passer from high post, Bragg is a 4.


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Old Apr 19, 2017, 07:18 PM   #563
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when so many of them are likely to be no more than eighteen years old?
Frazier, Da'Monte and maybe one more?

13 scholarships is too many. If you have 13 guys eligible to play, start the transfer rumors.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 07:22 PM   #564
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Memphis transfer Markel Crawford has committed to Ole Miss.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 07:22 PM   #565
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Frazier, Da'Monte and maybe one more?

13 scholarships is too many. If you have 13 guys eligible to play, start the transfer rumors.
This is actually a place where having transfers could help you. You can have some players for practice and the future but you don't have to allocate practice time. For a matter of course you rarely have 13 eligible scholarship players on a team. When you do it is followed by transfers.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 08:26 PM   #566
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There is a downside to taking both Bragg and Moore. Neither one can play next year.

Can we afford to have a maximum of eleven scholarship players, when so many of them are likely to be no more than eighteen years old?
The likelihood of finding freshmen who can actually make an impact next year seems pretty low. Transfers who can help and don't have to sit a year are hard to find and in high demand, as we're seeing with the Pitt fella.

Guys from major conferences who've shown they can play and will get a year to work on skills and learn a new system? Yep. You take guys like Moore and Bragg all day and figure it out as you go. Get Mark Smith if you can. Get the Pitt kid, too. But I don't see how Underwood can afford to pass on guys like this who are known commodities and can help you win in 2 years. You don't want to build your program around that strategy, but it makes as much sense now as it ever will. If we get those guys we should be thrilled. That's legit talent.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 09:56 PM   #567
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Frazier, DaMonte, and who knows how many more? We have six 'ships to fill, and two are accounted for. Take away two for CM & CB spending a year in the weight room, give the other two to MS and Francesco Badabing, and you have an awfully unbalanced and immature team next year.

Or do we write off next year? It was never likely to be a year for the ages.
LB, TJL, JCL DJW and AJ were all Top 100 or close to it.
KN and MF are skilled players.
LB and MF will be in their 4th years.
We have a nice blend of experience and talent even with the scenario you give. If BU is the coach most think he is, then next season won't be a write off.
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 11:56 PM   #568
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How about a scenerio where we (maybe if we are extremely lucky) get MS to sign up. Get CM and Bruninga and then Tilmon decides he wants to play with 2 I L L McDAA's and chooses us anyway. I wouldn't mind a situation where we could somehow get those 4 and CB but i know someone would have to transfer out. I meant 2 I L L Mr Basketballs

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Old Apr 20, 2017, 12:09 AM   #569
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How about a scenerio where we (maybe if we are extremely lucky) get MS to sign up. Get CM and Bruninga and then Tilmon decides he wants to play with 2 I L L McDAA's and chooses us anyway. I wouldn't mind a situation where we could somehow get those 4 and CB but i know someone would have to transfer out

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Who are these McDAA's you are referring to? Bragg I know, who is the second?
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 05:40 AM   #570
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Does anyone else notice the irony of us potentially lansing Bragg and Moore
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 06:40 AM   #571
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Does anyone else notice the irony of us potentially lansing Bragg and Moore
irony how? (You can tell I'm not seeing it)
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 07:06 AM   #572
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irony how? (You can tell I'm not seeing it)
We missed out on them with the last regime, and they could help get this one off to a good start.
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 08:54 AM   #573
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Does anyone else notice the irony of us potentially lansing Bragg and Moore
It'll be ironic if this new coach and his powerhouse recruiters end up in the same boat as Groce and miss out on everyone...
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 10:54 AM   #574
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It'll be ironic if this new coach and his powerhouse recruiters end up in the same boat as Groce and miss out on everyone...
bahahahahah
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 12:28 PM   #575
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Does anyone else notice the irony
I do not think it means what you think it means
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