Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

Joel Goodson · Aug 12, 2012, 02:22 PM

Follow-up: Is Lyle really a PG? (Scout has him there)

Kramer116 · Aug 12, 2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Joel Goodson

Follow-up: Is Lyle really a PG? (Scout has him there)

I would say more of a combo. He definitely is a playmaker.

I think he would be best matched up with a true PG allowing him to play off the ball a majority of the time and create from the wing.

I have seen Frank Williams comparisons thrown out there, more in terms of style of play, size, etc. Lyle does not have the handles of Frank though.

IlliniFreak7 · Aug 12, 2012, 04:05 PM

I think outside of the scenario of getting Jackson and Ennis, a back court of one of those two and Lyle is pretty much the dream scenario for us through 2014. If you added KBD and a 5 to this, I think we are setting ourselves up for a fantastic few years. I wonder if Lyle's visit will influence how hard Groce goes after another guard or not in 2013, and if he does, how that will affect Lyle's recruitment?

Kramer116 · Aug 12, 2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by IlliniFreak7

I think outside of the scenario of getting Jackson and Ennis, a back court of one of those two and Lyle is pretty much the dream scenario for us through 2014. If you added KBD and a 5 to this, I think we are setting ourselves up for a fantastic few years. I wonder if Lyle's visit will influence how hard Groce goes after another guard or not in 2013, and if he does, how that will affect Lyle's recruitment?

I think the main focus is getting the 2013 PG first then let it play out from there.

gandalf · Aug 12, 2012, 04:16 PM

may have been posted in another thread, but this is the first mention I have seen of us being involved with Trey Lyles:

http://keepingitheel.com/2012/08/12/...it-trey-lyles/

Lyles has insisted that Indiana is still #1 on his list as he opens things back up. Kentucky, Syracuse, Illinois, North Carolina, Kansas, UCLA, Duke and Georgetown according to sources, are all after the Indianapolis top prospect.

Joel Goodson · Aug 12, 2012, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kramer116

I think the main focus is getting the 2013 PG first then let it play out from there.

For sure. An elite '13 PG is the linchpin. Then bring KBD into the fold and the ball starts rollin'.

Recruiting is a results-oriented business (no big secret). It's way too early to make a definitive judgement on our staff's recruiting, but I am increasingly impressed with their recruiting acumen. We are getting looks (and apparently hard looks) from prospects who wouldn't have given us the time of day a short while ago. If Groce closes as well (or better) than his track record suggests, we will be back soon.

redriver · Aug 12, 2012, 07:38 PM

2015 Ohio center Carlton Bragg claims an Illinois offer, under recruiting updates.
http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2012...ap/#more-13092

JIllini79 · Aug 12, 2012, 11:51 PM

Lyle is probably my top 2014 guard that I want. Guy would be perfect to complement Jackson in the future.

JimmyChitwood · Aug 13, 2012, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JIllini79

Lyle is probably my top 2014 guard that I want. Guy would be perfect to complement Jackson in the future.

Both guards coming from Indiana? Is that even possible??? :laugh:

It would be an impressive back court.

CAHALL15 · Aug 13, 2012, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Joel Goodson

Great info, thanks. Would L-O-V-E to land Lyle. If we have to go the "consolation prize" route, how do you see Greer vs. Bluiett? Other contenders?

Jackson is so key. If we land him, Abrams and he should be able to hold the fort at PG through '14-15. I'd rather bag an elite PG from the '15s (of which there appear to be many), than settle in '14. That frees up a spot for a '14 wing. Hence, my interest in Lyle, Greer, et al.

In regards to the '15 class, these kids are still young and it will be interesting to see if these kids continue to grow and become wings. In regards to '13 and '14, if we get a pg this year, this gives us alot of wiggle room. We can continue with semi or a combo or just turn towards 14 and look at kbd, omara, or a number of guards like lyle, zabo, buliett, etc

illiniparkie · Aug 13, 2012, 02:01 PM

Tidbits:

Tommy Hamilton, 2013 C, may be attending IMG Academy in Bradenton, FLA this fall instead of Whitney Young.

http://yourseason.suntimes.com/home/...ves-young.html

Wes Clark, 2013 PG, is visiting MSU tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/NBESports

DMac's younger brother. Glynn Watson, 2015 PG, is on campus today for a visit.

https://twitter.com/Sturdy32

Combo · Aug 13, 2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JIllini79

Lyle is probably my top 2014 guard that I want. Guy would be perfect to complement Jackson in the future.

The odds of getting both are very, very low. Just one of them would be a coup.

saltygrapes · Aug 13, 2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Combo

The odds of getting both are very, very low. Just one of them would be a coup.

I don't think getting Jackson is a coup, I think the Illinois situation is sort of a perfect storm opportunity for him. He would be the first (and the last) recruit for John Groce that would come here to Illinois, now running a PG-centric system, when Illinois doesn't have a true PG to run that system. What I'm saying is, Illinois will never again find itself in a situation where they don't have a PG on the roster, especially now that they run an offense that places so much emphasis on that position.

I think getting Lyle would be a bit of a coup, but I think Illinois is a serious contender if they make some noise on the recruiting trail.

Combo · Aug 13, 2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by saltygrapes

I don't think getting Jackson is a coup, I think the Illinois situation is sort of a perfect storm opportunity for him. He would be the first (and the last) recruit for John Groce that would come here to Illinois, now running a PG-centric system, when Illinois doesn't have a true PG to run that system. What I'm saying is, Illinois will never again find itself in a situation where they don't have a PG on the roster, especially now that they run an offense that places so much emphasis on that position.

I think getting Lyle would be a bit of a coup, but I think Illinois is a serious contender if they make some noise on the recruiting trail.

I would agree with you that for Jackson, it's a perfect "storm" opportunity. However, you and I are both big Illini fans. It's quite possible that a kid that grew up for near South Bend, Indiana might not tend to view things the way you and I do.

saltygrapes · Aug 13, 2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Combo

I would agree with you that for Jackson, it's a perfect "storm" opportunity. However, you and I are both big Illini fans. It's quite possible that a kid that grew up for near South Bend, Indiana might not tend to view things the way you and I do.

Right but I don't say that as a fan, I say that as reality and objectively how it is. The kid loves the potential opportunity that's available to him here. He's not attached to Notre Dame the way many kids in that area are. They've recruited him the longest and have great relationships with him, but he's not dying to go to Notre Dame. if he was, he would have committed already. that doesn't mean he won't go there, but he's not a notre dame "fan".

mattcoldagelli · Aug 13, 2012, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by saltygrapes

They've recruited him the longest and have great relationships with him, but he's not dying to go to Notre Dame. if he was, he would have committed already.

Isn't this kind of the elephant in the room when it comes to him and ND at this point?

I mean, obviously he could end up there for other reasons (be near family, etc.), but this disproves the most talked-about rationale for him going there.

IlliniJim20 · Aug 13, 2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by illiniparkie

Tidbits:

Tommy Hamilton, 2013 C, may be attending IMG Academy in Bradenton, FLA this fall instead of Whitney Young.

http://yourseason.suntimes.com/home/...ves-young.html

That makes two guys Whitney Young has lost, in addition to the graduating players.

BrooksTaylorFan · Aug 13, 2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by IlliniJim20

That makes two guys Whitney Young has lost, in addition to the graduating players.

How long until the Prep's brother's post this breaking news?

Joel Goodson · Aug 13, 2012, 05:57 PM

Jackson-Lyle-Henry/Hill-KBD/Henry-Alexander/Morgan

Boom goes the dynamite!

A guy can dream, right?

BrooksTaylorFan · Aug 13, 2012, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Joel Goodson

Jackson-Lyle-Henry/Hill-KBD/Henry-Alexander/Morgan

Boom goes the dynamite!

A guy can dream, right?

Does your dream also include more scholarships? :laugh:

jhayton · Aug 13, 2012, 07:03 PM

^^^

That is a very lofty dream. Almost the dream, of a dream, within another dream, kind of dream.

illinixc · Aug 13, 2012, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jhayton

^^^

That is a very lofty dream. Almost the dream, of a dream, within another dream, kind of dream.

Inception?

Joel Goodson · Aug 13, 2012, 07:30 PM

If we land a Hoosier, why can't we land another? (it's a new day)

KBD wants to be an Illini (I think)

Alexander is a pipe dream, but I'm guessing Jackson-Lyle-Henry-Hill-KBD will get his attention.

All Groce has to do is make it happen. ;-)

Kramer116 · Aug 13, 2012, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BrooksTaylorFan

How long until the Prep's brother's post this breaking news?

IIRC, they actually have posted this was false (when it was initially reported a week or two ago). I wonder why Hamilton would want to head to Florida.

Lucy727 · Aug 13, 2012, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BrooksTaylorFan

How long until the Prep's brother's post this breaking news?

The Brother's posted it at 2:11 this afternoon.

https://twitter.com/prepbullseye/sta...91200716197888

Aug 12, 2012, 04:16 PM	#705
gandalf Posts: 122	Trey Lyles may have been posted in another thread, but this is the first mention I have seen of us being involved with Trey Lyles: http://keepingitheel.com/2012/08/12/...it-trey-lyles/ Lyles has insisted that Indiana is still #1 on his list as he opens things back up. Kentucky, Syracuse, Illinois, North Carolina, Kansas, UCLA, Duke and Georgetown according to sources, are all after the Indianapolis top prospect.

Aug 12, 2012, 02:22 PM	#701
Joel Goodson Coffee is for closers! Location: Elmhurst Posts: 990	Follow-up: Is Lyle really a PG? (Scout has him there)

Aug 12, 2012, 04:05 PM	#703
IlliniFreak7 Banned Posts: 210	I think outside of the scenario of getting Jackson and Ennis, a back court of one of those two and Lyle is pretty much the dream scenario for us through 2014. If you added KBD and a 5 to this, I think we are setting ourselves up for a fantastic few years. I wonder if Lyle's visit will influence how hard Groce goes after another guard or not in 2013, and if he does, how that will affect Lyle's recruitment?

Aug 12, 2012, 07:38 PM	#707
redriver Posts: 263	2015 Ohio center Carlton Bragg claims an Illinois offer, under recruiting updates. http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2012...ap/#more-13092

Aug 12, 2012, 11:51 PM	#708
JIllini79 Posts: 242	Lyle is probably my top 2014 guard that I want. Guy would be perfect to complement Jackson in the future.

Aug 13, 2012, 02:01 PM	#711
illiniparkie Location: Wilmette Posts: 876	Tidbits: Tommy Hamilton, 2013 C, may be attending IMG Academy in Bradenton, FLA this fall instead of Whitney Young. http://yourseason.suntimes.com/home/...ves-young.html Wes Clark, 2013 PG, is visiting MSU tomorrow. https://twitter.com/NBESports DMac's younger brother. Glynn Watson, 2015 PG, is on campus today for a visit. https://twitter.com/Sturdy32

Aug 13, 2012, 05:57 PM	#719
Joel Goodson Coffee is for closers! Location: Elmhurst Posts: 990	Jackson-Lyle-Henry/Hill-KBD/Henry-Alexander/Morgan Boom goes the dynamite! A guy can dream, right?

Aug 13, 2012, 07:03 PM	#721
jhayton Location: Osceola, WI Posts: 638	^^^ That is a very lofty dream. Almost the dream, of a dream, within another dream, kind of dream.

Aug 13, 2012, 07:30 PM	#723
Joel Goodson Coffee is for closers! Location: Elmhurst Posts: 990	If we land a Hoosier, why can't we land another? (it's a new day) KBD wants to be an Illini (I think) Alexander is a pipe dream, but I'm guessing Jackson-Lyle-Henry-Hill-KBD will get his attention. All Groce has to do is make it happen. ;-)