Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

scubadunk · Sep 12, 2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kcillinifan

sorry, I don't have time to read the entire thread...

Some of us choose to read the page instead of work but you didnt have to read the whole thread it was a page back.

Karl Welzein · Sep 12, 2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by katu06

Does a creaned player still get a scholarship for the duration of their education even if they are no longer playing basketball? Just curious.

No - scholarships are awarded on a yearly basis and once a coach pulls it, they are not on the hook for that player for the future, which is why you see Creaning occur - frees up a spot.

WesterveltVictoryCigar · Sep 12, 2012, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by katu06

Does a creaned player still get a scholarship for the duration of their education even if they are no longer playing basketball? Just curious.

Yes, but at another school, that's the whole point.

katu06 · Sep 12, 2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl Welzein

No - scholarships are awarded on a yearly basis and once a coach pulls it, they are not on the hook for that player for the future, which is why you see Creaning occur - frees up a spot.

I realize it frees up a basketball scholarship, that is the point.

If Ibby cares more about school than basketball, and if he were to get creaned, would our university still pay for his schooling? I'm assuming if the education is so important, he wouldn't go to another school.

BrooksTaylorFan · Sep 12, 2012, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by katu06

I realize it frees up a basketball scholarship, that is the point.

If Ibby cares more about school than basketball, and if he were to get creaned, would our university still pay for his schooling? I'm assuming if the education is so important, he wouldn't go to another school.

Ibby would lose his basketball scholarship, but I am sure that they could get him eligible for some sort of academic scholarship. Always ways to get creative for the good of the basketball program. :laugh:

Kramer116 · Sep 12, 2012, 02:30 PM

J,N,H,M + C/H

That's the plan at least.

Serious Late · Sep 12, 2012, 02:32 PM

I... Can't... WORK! Stop with all the quality insiders posting quality inside tips, its just too good when I have a busy day at work!!

Botb9 · Sep 12, 2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kramer116

J,N,H,M + C/H

That's the plan at least.

Seemed like a pipe dream even a week ago.

Hugh Jorgen · Sep 12, 2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by saltygrapes

"Familiar" would be the best word.

They realize they could be a very good backcourt together with Malcolm Hill and that is a big selling point to them on Illinois.

Exactly...and that Groce's system is completely built around the backcourt play. This system is custom fit for top notch guards.

The amazing thing for me is how, after all of the years of hearing Bruce make promises but not seeing it translate to the court, Groce has been able to sell this fit to top recruits in such a short time frame.

JaxIllini1 · Sep 12, 2012, 02:42 PM

Hate to be a wet blanket, but check out Jackson's quotes about ND joining the ACC. Not good.

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Mishawaka Marian senior Demetrius Jackson on #NotreDame joining #ACC - "It does change my (recruiting) thought process...

"To be the best, you've got to beat the best. My dream and my goal is to be the best."

More Jackson on #ACC - "It's definitely a very attractive move for all players who want to go to #NotreDame."

"Playing in a conference like (the #ACC) is definitely a way you can earn being the best."

Jackson says timetable for decision still the same - sometime before his first game of season. Could be tomorrow. Could be November.

Jackson admitted he would think once or twice about the chance to play in Carrier Dome, Dean Dome and Cameron Indoor Stadium every year.

https://twitter.com/tnoieNDInsider

justsomedude · Sep 12, 2012, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JaxIllini1

Hate to be a wet blanket, but check out Jackson's quotes about ND joining the ACC. Not good.

(courtesty of @tnoieNDInsider)

Mishawaka Marian senior Demetrius Jackson on #NotreDame joining #ACC - "It does change my (recruiting) thought process...

"To be the best, you've got to beat the best. My dream and my goal is to be the best."

More Jackson on #ACC - "It's definitely a very attractive move for all players who want to go to #NotreDame."

"Playing in a conference like (the #ACC) is definitely a way you can earn being the best."

Jackson says timetable for decision still the same - sometime before his first game of season. Could be tomorrow. Could be November.

Jackson admitted he would think once or twice about the chance to play in Carrier Dome, Dean Dome and Cameron Indoor Stadium every year.

Way to suck me back into reality

mattcoldagelli · Sep 12, 2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JaxIllini1

Hate to be a wet blanket, but check out Jackson's quotes about ND joining the ACC. Not good.

(courtesty of @tnoieNDInsider)

Mishawaka Marian senior Demetrius Jackson on #NotreDame joining #ACC - "It does change my (recruiting) thought process...

"To be the best, you've got to beat the best. My dream and my goal is to be the best."

More Jackson on #ACC - "It's definitely a very attractive move for all players who want to go to #NotreDame."

"Playing in a conference like (the #ACC) is definitely a way you can earn being the best."

Jackson says timetable for decision still the same - sometime before his first game of season. Could be tomorrow. Could be November.

Jackson admitted he would think once or twice about the chance to play in Carrier Dome, Dean Dome and Cameron Indoor Stadium every year.

That's why it'd be great to get Nunn on board. Sure, ND gets to play at those places, but they're going to get their skulls kicked in. Saddle up with Mr. Nunn and try to take down Jabari's MSU squad.

aberger · Sep 12, 2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Jorgen

Exactly...and that Groce's system is completely built around the backcourt play. This system is custom fit for top notch guards.

The amazing thing for me is how, after all of the years of hearing Bruce make promises but not seeing it translate to the court, Groce has been able to sell this fit to top recruits in such a short time frame.

The message might be the same, but the messenger is different. A great recruiter can change things fairly quickly. I think Groce is going to do some amazing things here.

Kramer116 · Sep 12, 2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Botb9

Seemed like a pipe dream even a week ago.

I have felt good about, cautiously optimistic you can say, for a few weeks now. Just seems to be more buzz lately.

Mark Seifert · Sep 12, 2012, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by justsomedude

I think if he lands these guys he gets a lot more leeway for at least next year.

Absolutely. If he closes a good class, he buys himself a ton of goodwill for what could be a tough season this year. The buzz becomes "the program is rebuilding bigtime" rather than "the program is having yet another rough year"

Greensboro · Sep 12, 2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JaxIllini1

Hate to be a wet blanket, but check out Jackson's quotes about ND joining the ACC. Not good.

ACC sounds good on the surface for ND, puts ND basketball in the news...but hopefully after thinking it though he realizes it is still ND basketball & playing in the B1G is still playing with the best...so it goes back to Groce selling the opportunity & potential of IL & 2013 class we may be on the verge of putting together.

KBLEE · Sep 12, 2012, 02:55 PM

Illini impress Nunn; UCLA ruled out

This is more of the same, but goes into a bit more depth about the presentation:

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Melvin was especially impressed by the Illini's presentation, which lasted 5 ½ hours. Illinois assistants Paris Parham and Jamall Walker joined Groce on the visit.

"Illinois put on a fantastic presentation," Melvin said. "They brought in their projection screen. It was something you'd expect from a campus visit. They brought it into the home, which was pretty nice.

"It consisted of different categories with style of play, what Illinois can bring you in the future when basketball is over, leaving a legacy in your own state, player development, recruiting."

BrooksTaylorFan · Sep 12, 2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JaxIllini1

Hate to be a wet blanket, but check out Jackson's quotes about ND joining the ACC. Not good.

I wouldn't read too much into it. Of cousre he's going to say things like that when it's a ND reporter interviewing him. It's not like the B1G doesn't have good teams and two of those teams are in his home state. Not to mention we play the ACC every season.

PeoriaSteve · Sep 12, 2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KBLEE

Illini impress Nunn; UCLA ruled out

This is more of the same, but goes into a bit more depth about the presentation:

Excellent, I was hoping Nunn would see that vision. Heck, should've known Coach Groce was way, way ahead of me in selling that to him!:laugh:

NumanDruman · Sep 12, 2012, 03:03 PM

I love reading this board. Pure entertainment. When you scamps get together you're worse than a sewing circle!

Larken24 · Sep 12, 2012, 03:04 PM

I know this is random, but I find it interesting that over 250 people are reading this right now and most of them are guests.

BrooksTaylorFan · Sep 12, 2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NumanDruman

I love reading this board. Pure entertainment. When you scamps get together you're worse than a sewing circle!

Sewing circle? Time to get off the internet now Grandpa. It's 4:00, time for dinner. :laugh:

Future Walk-On · Sep 12, 2012, 03:10 PM

Rice was the MAN and leader at Drake from Day 1. He has never been able to rely on more experienced players. The team rode his shoulders.

That's why I like him over anyone on the current roster. He never slacks.

NorthwesternIllini4 · Sep 12, 2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NumanDruman

I love reading this board. Pure entertainment. When you scamps get together you're worse than a sewing circle!

Way to be a buzz killington

shelbyrunner80 · Sep 12, 2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BrooksTaylorFan

Sewing circle? Time to get off the internet now Grandpa. It's 4:00, time for dinner. :laugh:

in his defense he is quoting missus mia wallace from pulp fiction. so, that doesn't make him that old, and kind of hip.

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