Penn State 35, Illinois 7 POSTGAME

Dan · Sep 29, 2012, 01:00 PM

NS2toAJ8 · Sep 29, 2012, 01:01 PM

We need Aaron Bailey to hurry up and get here. NS is not the answer at Qb.

Groundhogday · Sep 29, 2012, 01:02 PM

Serious question: Should we have offered Koenning the HC position? I didn't think so at the time, but I'm starting to second guess.

uiba99 · Sep 29, 2012, 01:04 PM

Is this the earliest postgame thread start time in IL history?

I feel like this is the second coming of the Turner Era. And I hated that era. And I normally am very optimistic, to the point of unreasonableness.

But we are...bad.

Groundhogday · Sep 29, 2012, 01:06 PM

We are also seeing that there is value in hiring an experienced and proven offensive coordinator. None of Paul Petrino, Gonzales or Beatty were D1 coordinators calling plays before they took the reigns at Illinois. HUGE risk, even if Gonzales and Beatty can recruit. It is going to be hard to compete when we are schematically playing checkers and the other B1G teams are playing chess.

IlliniHimey · Sep 29, 2012, 01:06 PM

What does it mean when a loss like this does not even bother me any more? Oh, sure, I was upset in the 1st half, but now, it is a non-event.

I am guessing that this is what it felt like to be a fan in the late 1970's?

They are just dead to me.

Groundhogday · Sep 29, 2012, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IlliniHimey

What does it mean when a loss like this does not even bother me any more? Oh, sure, I was upset in the 1st half, but now, it is a non-event.

I am guessing that this is what it felt like to be a fan in the late 1970's?

They are just dead to me.

You don't have to go back to the late 1970's. The start of the Turner and Zook era's felt very similar.

IlliniForever · Sep 29, 2012, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groundhogday

Serious question: Should we have offered Koenning the HC position? I didn't think so at the time, but I'm starting to second guess.

I don't think VK would be the answer. He never won more than 2 games a season during his three years as a head coach at Wyoming. He is a great defensive mind, but not every great coordinator is head coach material.

RyanK · Sep 29, 2012, 01:14 PM

If you think this is bad, check out next year. Find me 3 wins.

Saturday
08/31/13 Southern Illinois Salukis
Memorial Stadium, Champaign, IL TBA ---

Saturday
09/07/13 Cincinnati Bearcats
Memorial Stadium, Champaign, IL TBA ---

Saturday
09/14/13 Washington Huskies
Soldier Field, Chicago, IL TBA ---

Saturday
09/21/13 --- Open Date --- ---

Saturday
09/28/13 Miami (OH) RedHawks
Memorial Stadium, Champaign, IL TBA ---

Saturday
10/05/13 at Nebraska Cornhuskers
Memorial Stadium, Lincoln, NE TBA ---

Saturday
10/12/13 --- Open Date --- ---

Saturday
10/19/13 Wisconsin Badgers
Memorial Stadium, Champaign, IL TBA ---

Saturday
10/26/13 Michigan State Spartans (HC)
Memorial Stadium, Champaign, IL TBA ---

Saturday
11/02/13 at Penn State Nittany Lions
Beaver Stadium, University Park, PA TBA ---

Saturday
11/09/13 at Indiana Hoosiers
Memorial Stadium, Bloomington, IN TBA ---

Saturday
11/16/13 Ohio State Buckeyes
Memorial Stadium, Champaign, IL TBA ---

Saturday
11/23/13 at Purdue Boilermakers
Ross-Ade Stadium, West Lafayette, IN TBA ---

Saturday
11/30/13 Northwestern Wildcats
Memorial Stadium, Champaign, IL TBA ---

Saturday
12/07/13 Big Ten Championship Game
Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis, IN TBA

the national · Sep 29, 2012, 01:15 PM

this was the worst illinois game Ive watched in a long time. Uninspired. On all sides of the ball. mistakes, turnovers (for the second straight game), penalties and injuries. There is very little to get excited about. very little.

ILLINIFAN2 · Sep 29, 2012, 01:15 PM

Welcome to the "NEW ERA" folks... I can live with losing but when it is a total blowout that my friends is a different story. Not to mention back to back games of almost 60 points difference against unranked teams.... PATHETIC

the national · Sep 29, 2012, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanK

If you think this is bad, check out next year. Find me 3 wins.

3 wins next year would be a blessing

KansasIllini · Sep 29, 2012, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uiba99

I feel like this is the second coming of the Turner Era. And I hated that era. And I normally am very optimistic, to the point of unreasonableness.

It's the exact same way with me. I've always been on the optimistic side, and have never been much for knee-jerk reactions, but this is downright ridiculous. Good, bad, or otherwise, depending on your opinions, Beckman's gonna be around for 2-3 years minimum. It's unrealistic to call for his head after 5 games. But we do need to get a point across ASAP, and if that means we have a couple assistants looking for jobs come Monday, then so be it. Maybe it wouldn't be 100% fair to them, but something big needs to be done, and soon.

USNIlliniFan · Sep 29, 2012, 01:18 PM

First year coach...First year staff... I expected losses; but not seeing any progress...this bothers me.

mdonsbach · Sep 29, 2012, 01:18 PM

Aaron Bailey can't be the savior if we don't have a good O-line.

ILLINIFAN2 · Sep 29, 2012, 01:20 PM

I am soooo glad I didn't buy tickets and drive 6 hours each way to see this team play today...

Groundhogday · Sep 29, 2012, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IlliniForever

I don't think VK would be the answer. He never won more than 2 games a season during his three years as a head coach at Wyoming. He is a great defensive mind, but not every great coordinator is head coach material.

This was what I thought (and said) at the time. But there is certainly a chance that VK learned a thing or two over the ten years since that failure. He sure could get guys to play hard.

Nigel · Sep 29, 2012, 01:21 PM

Worst team in a bad Big Ten?

ILLINIFAN2 · Sep 29, 2012, 01:23 PM

In regards to VK, the intensity that the players had with him as the DC was a total 180 in comparison to this years team. Also, there are a lot of seniors on defense so what does that tell you!

BES76 · Sep 29, 2012, 01:23 PM

What an embarrassment for the UoI. Right or wrong, between the announcers ripping Beckman attempting to recruit "obviously better players at PSU" and the the poor play and game ejection ... my only advice to Beckman is before you start lamenting about sprucing up the stadium to attract fans, you better have a product worth watching. Nice recruiting film for PSU though.

illinibri92 · Sep 29, 2012, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IlliniHimey

What does it mean when a loss like this does not even bother me any more? Oh, sure, I was upset in the 1st half, but now, it is a non-event.

I am guessing that this is what it felt like to be a fan in the late 1970's?

They are just dead to me.

I didn't even know what time we played today or if it was in C-U or Happy Valley. I hate that I don't care anymore.

AdoptedIllini76 · Sep 29, 2012, 01:24 PM

At least we had new helmets on. I liked them. Didn't like anything else.

USNIlliniFan · Sep 29, 2012, 01:25 PM

I'm just sorry I didn't buy stock in Bush beans before the season started....won't be a shortage of steaks in C-U this year.

fdandrea13 · Sep 29, 2012, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groundhogday

Serious question: Should we have offered Koenning the HC position? I didn't think so at the time, but I'm starting to second guess.

As crazy as I sound, I was actually really hoping they would. Granted it was just one game but we looked great in the bowl game with him as HC and the loss of Zook in that game didn't deflate the team. I don't know, I was really hoping Koenning at least stuck around though.

Paignt It Orange · Sep 29, 2012, 01:27 PM

Was Brown hurt?

Sep 29, 2012, 01:02 PM	#3
Groundhogday Posts: 18,072	Serious question: Should we have offered Koenning the HC position? I didn't think so at the time, but I'm starting to second guess. __________________ ONLY ORANGE!

Sep 29, 2012, 01:04 PM	#4
uiba99 Tiny Illini Location: The basement of the Alamo Posts: 1,658	Is this the earliest postgame thread start time in IL history? I feel like this is the second coming of the Turner Era. And I hated that era. And I normally am very optimistic, to the point of unreasonableness. But we are...bad. __________________ "The danger is all around us now. Hatred is rising, yet all sides feel more virtuous. We’re asleep to the threat. We can have the most sophisticated Constitution, a brilliant system of checks and balances and a Bill of Rights to safeguard against the tyranny of the majority — yet none of it can stand against the power of hatred." Fr. John I. Jenkins, President, University of Notre Dame

Sep 29, 2012, 01:06 PM	#5
Groundhogday Posts: 18,072	We are also seeing that there is value in hiring an experienced and proven offensive coordinator. None of Paul Petrino, Gonzales or Beatty were D1 coordinators calling plays before they took the reigns at Illinois. HUGE risk, even if Gonzales and Beatty can recruit. It is going to be hard to compete when we are schematically playing checkers and the other B1G teams are playing chess. __________________ ONLY ORANGE!

Sep 29, 2012, 01:18 PM	#15
mdonsbach Location: Bethalto, IL Posts: 1,257	Aaron Bailey can't be the savior if we don't have a good O-line. __________________ Twitter

Sep 29, 2012, 01:24 PM	#22
AdoptedIllini76 Location: O'Fallon, IL Posts: 89	At least we had new helmets on. I liked them. Didn't like anything else. __________________ As a pharmacist, I recommend a winning Illinois football season as the most effective prescription for many ailments.

Sep 29, 2012, 01:00 PM	#1
Dan Admin Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 25,883

Sep 29, 2012, 01:01 PM	#2
NS2toAJ8 Posts: 824	We need Aaron Bailey to hurry up and get here. NS is not the answer at Qb.

Sep 29, 2012, 01:06 PM	#6
IlliniHimey Posts: 15	What does it mean when a loss like this does not even bother me any more? Oh, sure, I was upset in the 1st half, but now, it is a non-event. I am guessing that this is what it felt like to be a fan in the late 1970's? They are just dead to me.

Sep 29, 2012, 01:14 PM	#9
RyanK Posts: 2,707	If you think this is bad, check out next year. Find me 3 wins. Saturday 08/31/13 Southern Illinois Salukis Memorial Stadium, Champaign, IL TBA --- Saturday 09/07/13 Cincinnati Bearcats Memorial Stadium, Champaign, IL TBA --- Saturday 09/14/13 Washington Huskies Soldier Field, Chicago, IL TBA --- Saturday 09/21/13 --- Open Date --- --- Saturday 09/28/13 Miami (OH) RedHawks Memorial Stadium, Champaign, IL TBA --- Saturday 10/05/13 at Nebraska Cornhuskers Memorial Stadium, Lincoln, NE TBA --- Saturday 10/12/13 --- Open Date --- --- Saturday 10/19/13 Wisconsin Badgers Memorial Stadium, Champaign, IL TBA --- Saturday 10/26/13 Michigan State Spartans (HC) Memorial Stadium, Champaign, IL TBA --- Saturday 11/02/13 at Penn State Nittany Lions Beaver Stadium, University Park, PA TBA --- Saturday 11/09/13 at Indiana Hoosiers Memorial Stadium, Bloomington, IN TBA --- Saturday 11/16/13 Ohio State Buckeyes Memorial Stadium, Champaign, IL TBA --- Saturday 11/23/13 at Purdue Boilermakers Ross-Ade Stadium, West Lafayette, IN TBA --- Saturday 11/30/13 Northwestern Wildcats Memorial Stadium, Champaign, IL TBA --- Saturday 12/07/13 Big Ten Championship Game Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis, IN TBA

Sep 29, 2012, 01:15 PM	#10
the national Location: Kansas City Posts: 150	this was the worst illinois game Ive watched in a long time. Uninspired. On all sides of the ball. mistakes, turnovers (for the second straight game), penalties and injuries. There is very little to get excited about. very little.

Sep 29, 2012, 01:15 PM	#11
ILLINIFAN2 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 362	Welcome to the "NEW ERA" folks... I can live with losing but when it is a total blowout that my friends is a different story. Not to mention back to back games of almost 60 points difference against unranked teams.... PATHETIC

Sep 29, 2012, 01:18 PM	#14
USNIlliniFan Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 318	First year coach...First year staff... I expected losses; but not seeing any progress...this bothers me.

Sep 29, 2012, 01:20 PM	#16
ILLINIFAN2 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 362	I am soooo glad I didn't buy tickets and drive 6 hours each way to see this team play today...

Sep 29, 2012, 01:21 PM	#18
Nigel Posts: 101	Worst team in a bad Big Ten?

Sep 29, 2012, 01:23 PM	#19
ILLINIFAN2 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 362	In regards to VK, the intensity that the players had with him as the DC was a total 180 in comparison to this years team. Also, there are a lot of seniors on defense so what does that tell you!

Sep 29, 2012, 01:23 PM	#20
BES76 Location: Kennewick, Wa Posts: 121	What an embarrassment for the UoI. Right or wrong, between the announcers ripping Beckman attempting to recruit "obviously better players at PSU" and the the poor play and game ejection ... my only advice to Beckman is before you start lamenting about sprucing up the stadium to attract fans, you better have a product worth watching. Nice recruiting film for PSU though.

Sep 29, 2012, 01:25 PM	#23
USNIlliniFan Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 318	I'm just sorry I didn't buy stock in Bush beans before the season started....won't be a shortage of steaks in C-U this year.

Sep 29, 2012, 01:27 PM	#25
Paignt It Orange Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 1,202	Was Brown hurt? __________________ CHIEF