10/29 News & Notes

[Dan]

Tim Beckman press conference today, 1:10pm CT.

First Word with Tim Beckman 10-29-12

http://www.illinihq.com/audio/2012-1...-10-29-12.html

[Dan]

Eleven Adjustments #10: Transparency - http://tinyurl.com/8ey6zdp - #Illini #FB

Eleven Adjustments #11: Fix The Sideline - http://tinyurl.com/96865et - #Illini #FB

Turnovers Are Football - http://tinyurl.com/9dgkpga - #Illini #FB

http://twitter.com/ALionEye

[Dan]

Indiana didn't garner any Big Ten Player of the Week honors, so there's that.

http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footb...102912aaa.html

[quhawks12]

Originally Posted by Dan

Indiana didn't garner any Big Ten Player of the Week honors, so there's that.

http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footb...102912aaa.html

Moral victory??

[ctblaisdell83]

Originally Posted by Dan

Indiana didn't garner any Big Ten Player of the Week honors, so there's that.

http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footb...102912aaa.html

Fire Wilson!

[Dan]

Indiana co-Def coordinator Mike Ekeler told me Illinois game was "the worst game we played all year," even though IU allowed only 17 points

http://twitter.com/ESPN_BigTen

[ctblaisdell83]

can you say, "Ouch"?

[Dan]

#illini Beckman: " we are our own worst enemy."

http://twitter.com/AirMaxTane

#illini Beckman: "You watched the game, and it was the same on film. We were our own worst enemy. ...It was not an effort thing."

http://twitter.com/WernerESPNCU

[Dan]

Beckman: "We did not get better at protecting Nathan, and that's very important."

Beckman: Kept backs and TEs in to chip. Must get off the ball quicker and do more movement passing. Comes down to 1-on-1 battles

http://twitter.com/WernerESPNCU

Beckman: "gotta get off the ball quicker, do more passing on the move. It still comes down winning one on one's."

http://twitter.com/AirMaxTane

[Dan]

Beckman: "Urban is one of my close friends. Part of the uniqueness of College Football."

Beckman and Urban Meyer have quite the lineage, dating all the way back to college. Opted not to follow Meyer to Utah.

http://twitter.com/AirMaxTane

Beckman: Considers Urban Meyer a close friend. Doesn't talk much to him now that they're rivals. Will meet with him on the field.

Beckman: OSU has lot of the same players he played in a close loss to OSU at Toledo last year.

http://twitter.com/WernerESPNCU

[Dan]

Beckman: "they had to run yesterday for the penalties. Have to make sure there are not personal fouls."

http://twitter.com/AirMaxTane

[Dan]

Beckman: Will make permanent change at punt returner. Tommy Davis out. Darius Millines or Terry Hawthorne will return now.

http://twitter.com/WernerESPNCU

[Dan]

Beckman: Will see how Josh Ferguson progresses (hip pointer) this week. Alex Hill replaced Michael Heitz bc of performance on Sat.

http://twitter.com/WernerESPNCU

Staples, Ferguson, Hull just some of many "dinged up" #illini from Saturday.

http://twitter.com/AirMaxTane

[Dan]

Beckman: "I guess you learn how to take defeats in a row. I hate losing. How to react to the players after continued defeats ...

Beckman continued: "I guess learning on continuing to motivate and continuing to push players..."

Beckman: "I think Urban's doing a great job with the way they're coaching. ...There's a reason they're undefeated."

Beckman: Steve Hull has been getting "stingers" in the shoulder. Said they'd have to evaluate him this week.

http://twitter.com/WernerESPNCU

Beckman on Braxton miller: "saw him in high school, you knew he was going to be special." Will have to have eyes on him at all times

Beckman on OSU: "I knew they'd be good. Looking forward to going to Columbus."

http://twitter.com/AirMaxTane

[Dan]

Here's a fun caller.

Caller asks Loren Tate to disclose which coaches John Supinie was talking about in last week's "dysfunctional" article.

32:50-

10-29-12 Monday Morning Quarterbacks

http://www.wdws.com/audio/2012-10-29...rterbacks.html

[quhawks12]

Originally Posted by Dan

Here's a fun caller.

Caller asks Loren Tate to disclose which coaches John Supinie was talking about in last week's "dysfunctional" article.

32:50-

Classic!

[Groundhogday]

Neither Beckman nor Barnhart have observed any problems between the coaches. Supinie and Tate have both heard the same rumor from the same person who is not a first hand observer. So clearly, someone is doing quite a bit of talking but not the coaches themselves. Someone "connected" to the program has been bagging on Beckman for quite some time now and has likely been the source for Klee, Supinie and many of the other reporters. I sure would like to know who feels so compelled to bag on Beckman. Is there a disgruntled Zook holdover somewhere in the football program with a vendetta?

[quhawks12]

Originally Posted by Groundhogday

Is there a disgruntled Zook holdover somewhere in the football program with a vendetta?

Sure sounds like it to me.

[Groundhogday]

Originally Posted by Groundhogday

Neither Beckman nor Barnhart have observed any problems between the coaches. Supinie and Tate have both heard the same rumor from the same person who is not a first hand observer. So clearly, someone is doing quite a bit of talking but not the coaches themselves. Someone "connected" to the program has been bagging on Beckman for quite some time now and has likely been the source for Klee, Supinie and many of the other reporters. I sure would like to know who feels so compelled to bag on Beckman. Is there a disgruntled Zook holdover somewhere in the football program with a vendetta?

Meant to say neither Tate nor Barnhart.

[AHSIllini32]

Originally Posted by quhawks12

Sure sounds like it to me.

Originally Posted by Groundhogday

Neither Beckman nor Barnhart have observed any problems between the coaches. Supinie and Tate have both heard the same rumor from the same person who is not a first hand observer. So clearly, someone is doing quite a bit of talking but not the coaches themselves. Someone "connected" to the program has been bagging on Beckman for quite some time now and has likely been the source for Klee, Supinie and many of the other reporters. I sure would like to know who feels so compelled to bag on Beckman. Is there a disgruntled Zook holdover somewhere in the football program with a vendetta?

This is what I've been saying since all these "rumors" came out. I didn't realize Zook had such power over people to get them so faithful to him.

[Groundhogday]

Originally Posted by AHSIllini32

This is what I've been saying since all these "rumors" came out. I didn't realize Zook had such power over people to get them so faithful to him.

Or it might be someone who didn't hit it off with Beckman or lost power/authority with the regime change. Either way, the Tate response to that question certainly suggests there is someone with a negative agenda, someone connected to the football program. Someone in the athletic department needs to figure out who is on this sabotage mission and fire their sorry a$$.

[Dan]

John Supinie on the Tay and J Show.

Supinie is asked about his "dysfunctional" article at the 9:30 mark-

10/29/12 Hour 3: John Supinie

http://tayandj.podbean.com/2012/10/2...-john-supinie/

[Groundhogday]

Originally Posted by Dan

John Supinie on the Tay and J Show.

Supinie is asked about his "dysfunctional" article at the 9:30 mark-

Supinie sticks with the story that there is conflict with a couple of the assistant coaches. But he also says that we should have known this was going to be a rebuilding job. Zook's last two classes were very weak and that leaves a big hole in the middle of the roster. Supinie thinks that VK knew it was going to be an uphill struggle because of the recruiting problems and got out when the going was good. Didn't think that VK wanted to stay, then when he and Beckman didn't hit it off it was a good excuse to leave.

Two problems: bad recruiting (worse that most realized) but there is also a complete failure of Beckman to show any improvement or sign of progress.

[quhawks12]

Originally Posted by Groundhogday

Supinie sticks with the story that there is conflict with a couple of the assistant coaches. But he also says that we should have known this was going to be a rebuilding job. Zook's last two classes were very weak and that leaves a big hole in the middle of the roster. Supinie thinks that VK knew it was going to be an uphill struggle because of the recruiting problems and got out when the going was good. Didn't think that VK wanted to stay, then when he and Beckman didn't hit it off it was a good excuse to leave.

Two problems: bad recruiting (worse that most realized) but there is also a complete failure of Beckman to show any improvement or sign of progress.

VK was gone as I said and you and I both know he was smart enough to see something like this coming with the recruiting problems. The TB thing gave VK the perfect excuse and then people wouldn't come to find that he was already locked in with Fedora.

Supinie is spot on about the middle of this roster. Let's take a look at the sophomore and junior classes.

Soph (RS-Fr) contributors:

Karras, Ferguson, Zalewski, Heitz, Davis, Howe, O'Toole, Immekus, Duvernois, Teitsma, Thomas, Cvijanovic, Young

Juniors (RS-So) contributors:

Hull, Millines, Lankford, Brown, Wilson, Harris, Spence, Sheelhaase, Bates

Sophomore (RS-Fr) class is 13 contributors out of a total class of 23. Not bad for a young class just in their 2nd year. Except when you look closely you realize that 2 of these guys are kickers. So now it's 11 of 23. Then look closer and one is a punter and another is the back up QB. So now we are really at 9 of the 23. I would say that Heitz, Cvijanovic, Karras, Howe and Teitsma SHOULD BE back ups but are thrown to the wolves due to a lack of depth. So really 4 of the 23 are making a real positive impact. Ferguson, Davis, Thomas and Young

Juniors: 8 of the 22. This is their 3rd year and 8 of the 22. And I'm including Scheelhaase and Spence to make it look better. So really 6 of the 22 in their 3rd year are making an impact.

So, yeah...I'd say Supinie is pretty spot on with his statement of the middle of the roster being not up to standards.

I might be missing people because I did this pretty quickly. But it's just a quick review.

[illinibob]

Originally Posted by Groundhogday

Or it might be someone who didn't hit it off with Beckman or lost power/authority with the regime change. Either way, the Tate response to that question certainly suggests there is someone with a negative agenda, someone connected to the football program. Someone in the athletic department needs to figure out who is on this sabotage mission and fire their sorry a$$.

Or it might be someone who has observed that the staff really is disfunctional and is telling the truth. Why assume that such a report could only be the product of a disgruntled vendetta? Sounds frighteningly like what the WFF's used to say in response to honest criticism a few years back.