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Old Jan 10, 2013, 08:06 PM   #3851
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Such sanctimony coming from a poster who more than dabbles in the proliferation of recruitment scuttlebutt. Of Salty's last 200 posts, over 150 are found in this thread, or other recruit commitment based discussions. If he doesn't find the recruitment process entertaining, he sure had me fooled.
Pretty sure his point was about everyone reading far too much into every little thing and getting overhyped about it all. Talking about recruiting is one thing, hanging on every tweet and piece of info as if it determines the future is another thing entirely.
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 08:17 PM   #3852
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Tyrone Slaughter Likes Groce




So I guess we are out of recruiting defcon 5 now?
I'm glad he likes Groce, but not sure why a coach's race matters?
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 08:26 PM   #3853
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I think everyone has written off Okafor, but Peak is a really interesting prospect. How are his handles?
Rumor had it that Peak was going back to South Carolina for his senior year.
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 08:40 PM   #3854
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I'm glad he likes Groce, but not sure why a coach's race matters?
Not sure why race ever matters, but that is just my personal opinion.....

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Old Jan 10, 2013, 08:53 PM   #3855
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I think it's interesting that out of JG's first 8 signees/commits only 2 (Nunn & Tate) are from Chicago. He has the same number from Champaign.
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 09:35 PM   #3856
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I think it's interesting that out of JG's first 8 signees/commits only 2 (Nunn & Tate) are from Chicago. He has the same number from Champaign.
Gotta give it to Groce Champaign is a lot harder to recruit than Chicago
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Old Jan 10, 2013, 10:13 PM   #3857
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Not sure why race ever matters, but that is just my personal opinion.....
Race matters a lot when casting for movies, for one.

Remember the Titans would have been really weird if all the actors were white.

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Old Jan 10, 2013, 11:18 PM   #3858
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Goin to watch Larry Austin Jr. play in friday nights game. Lanphier Lions vs Lincoln Railers.

I'll keep everyone updated on here on how LA does in this game!

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Old Jan 11, 2013, 01:19 AM   #3859
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Pretty sure his point was about everyone reading far too much into every little thing and getting overhyped about it all. Talking about recruiting is one thing, hanging on every tweet and piece of info as if it determines the future is another thing entirely.
Its just silly.

First, a recruit is not going to share anything genuine about his recruitment on twitter, why would you assume otherwise? "Hey, I just brushed my teeth and I was thinking about Illinois while doing it." Is that the kind of stuff people want? Because there's never any substance or anything genuine about a recruit retweeting fans or something.

Second, articles have a little more substance but are overall just as stupid. Why? Three reasons. Number one is that an article with quotes from a recruit ("mentions" of schools as you all call them) begins with a reporter interviewing a player. Players want to tell you all about their game and team and season--they like publicity--but then when the reporter inevitably asks about their recruitment its just awkward and the kid wants the guy out of his face. They're asked these recruiting questions and the kids just answer with whatever comes to mind fastest to a) please the fan base of the journalist and b) get the journalist to shut up as quickly as possible. Second, a kids answers to these random questions can be skewed by tons of different factors on any given day; which team last texted me? Who was at my game? It can't hurt to be mentioned by a recruit but it means nothing. Third and last, the reporter then writes the article and can pick any quotes, put them in almost any context, etc. And manipulate it however he/she pleases. Furthermore some will not publish certain things out of respect or request of the recruit. So you neverknow what it is you're actually getting.

Some recruits don't mind talking honestly about their recruitments to journalists, but rarely is that ever the case with blue chip recruits. Much less someone like Alexander or Lyle. Did you ever actually believe anything that came out of the Parkers' mouths about jabaris recruitment? And that was a clean recruitment.

Hope that clears it up.

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Old Jan 11, 2013, 02:11 AM   #3860
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As i've stated Morgan will play next year, even if it's only for 10 minutes a game. My observation is JG is not the type of guy to recruit potential "redshirts" or guys that might contribute in 3 or 4 years. Now is their time to play!!
Finding SM was rare in that there were only about 24 5th year Grad students eligible and he happened to fit our backup center need. Oriahki was a whole different set of circumstances.
Colbert was one of the top 20 players in the NATION as a Soph. He will play too!!
We are losing 4 players plus have 2 more "questionable" players on the bench, that's almost half the roster. Somebody's got play from the '013 class and if JG has put in MLT on occasion, he certainly will play his 5 recruited '013 players.
If you think that scenarios wont develop that a quality big men that offer us a back up big man off the bench over the age of 19 with experience that Groce wont consider for a year i disagree with you. I dont think there is any way we ride with an open scolly. Our biggest need is the interior. So that said we will go after a one year fill in at the 4 or 5. "_+* happens it always does so if a stud underrated player grows into a D I player we would take him over a high school player to fill a need. If i am wrong so be it but those are my thoughts tonight. Was Scottie Pippen offered a Big Ten Scolly, or Lillard this year... no,,i would take them as two star proven college Jrs for sure! I dont think we roll with a man ranked outside of the 150 as out back up plan in the post

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Old Jan 11, 2013, 05:45 AM   #3861
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I'm glad he likes Groce, but not sure why a coach's race matters?
This is such a old topic. I see racism everyday living in Chicago. What's the ratio of black athletes that play sports? Now tell me, whats the ratio of coaches at the higher levels. Not many. There are many variables that can play into this but some folks are just not ready hire black coaches.
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Old Jan 11, 2013, 06:46 AM   #3862
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I think everyone has written off Okafor, but Peak is a really interesting prospect. How are his handles?
Decent handes, but he is not a point guard prospect IMO
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Old Jan 11, 2013, 06:51 AM   #3863
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Rumor had it that Peak was going back to South Carolina for his senior year.
Interesting. If he came to Chicago for basketball, then he will be leaving an absolutely loaded team next year. Whitney Young will return four starters, all D 1 prospects, including the #1or 2 player in Okafor. They will need to find a point guard, but still.

I have not heard that rumor.
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Old Jan 11, 2013, 08:12 AM   #3864
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Interesting. If he came to Chicago for basketball, then he will be leaving an absolutely loaded team next year. Whitney Young will return four starters, all D 1 prospects, including the #1or 2 player in Okafor. They will need to find a point guard, but still.

I have not heard that rumor.
Like I said before, more rumors than usual going around this time of year because recruiting news is quiet so don't believe much of what you hear.
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Old Jan 11, 2013, 08:19 AM   #3865
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Like I said before, more rumors than usual going around this time of year because recruiting news is quiet so don't believe much of what you hear.
Of course if people were interested in only discussing facts, we'd just wait and read the newspaper. There is some irony in having a Recruiting Thread where rumors would not be discussed. I know it wasn't you suggesting that be the case but come on. We'd have about 10 posts a month on this whole site if all we did was post actual proven news.

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Old Jan 11, 2013, 08:20 AM   #3866
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Of course if people were interested in only discussing facts, we'd just wait and read the newspaper.
If only this was true.
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Old Jan 11, 2013, 08:33 AM   #3867
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It's college basketball recruiting. If you can't have a little fun with it then why the hell are we even here?

If you want to hang on every word a recruit puts on Twitter, I say go for it. Don't let the silly recruiting bullies stop you.

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Old Jan 11, 2013, 08:44 AM   #3868
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Of course if people were interested in only discussing facts, we'd just wait and read the newspaper. There is some irony in having a Recruiting Thread where rumors would not be discussed. I know it wasn't you suggesting that be the case but come on. We'd have about 10 posts a month on this whole site if all we did was post actual proven news.
I completely agree with you. The problem is nothing happens this time of year so people tend to make things up or bring up old rumors. In a span of two days, it was posted on this board that Groce speaks to Lyle daily and then another said they never talk. Both were untrue. I love hearing and sharing rumors as much as anyone else, but it's just so quiet this itme of year. All the recruits are worried about there own teams.

Did you get a chance to see MM yet, Dayton?
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Old Jan 11, 2013, 08:45 AM   #3869
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If only this was true.
Newspaper? Do those things still exist? :laugh:
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Old Jan 11, 2013, 09:09 AM   #3870
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Goin to watch Larry Austin Jr. play in friday nights game. Lanphier Lions vs Lincoln Railers.

I'll keep everyone updated on here on how LA does in this game!
Thanks!
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Old Jan 11, 2013, 10:23 AM   #3871
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Interesting. If he came to Chicago for basketball, then he will be leaving an absolutely loaded team next year. Whitney Young will return four starters, all D 1 prospects, including the #1or 2 player in Okafor. They will need to find a point guard, but still.

I have not heard that rumor.
Rumor came off of Cocky Talk, USC's message board. Poster had almost 10,000 posts and was dated 12/20/12. Poster also identified as "hearing thru the grapevine."
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Old Jan 11, 2013, 12:08 PM   #3872
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I completely agree with you. The problem is nothing happens this time of year so people tend to make things up or bring up old rumors. In a span of two days, it was posted on this board that Groce speaks to Lyle daily and then another said they never talk. Both were untrue. I love hearing and sharing rumors as much as anyone else, but it's just so quiet this itme of year. All the recruits are worried about there own teams.

Did you get a chance to see MM yet, Dayton?
No. I really want to and it should be easy. I was thinking about the Flying to the Hoop tournament in Kettering. I have been before. Huge group of top prospects every year. MM will be there this year.

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Old Jan 11, 2013, 12:39 PM   #3873
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No. I really want to and it should be easy. I was thinking about the Flying to the Hoop tournament in Kettering. I have been before. Huge group of top prospects every year. MM will be there this year.
#2 ranked event nationally per CBS Sports/Max Preps. FWIW, Jalen James will be there...
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Old Jan 11, 2013, 01:36 PM   #3874
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For all those omg no tweets about Illini cliff retweeted a pro illini tweet today so everyone can relax lol
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Old Jan 11, 2013, 02:22 PM   #3875
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Of course if people were interested in only discussing facts, we'd just wait and read the newspaper. There is some irony in having a Recruiting Thread where rumors would not be discussed. I know it wasn't you suggesting that be the case but come on. We'd have about 10 posts a month on this whole site if all we did was post actual proven news.

Not sure what newspaper you read, but the ones I've read seldom contain anything that I would ever consider "fact". Most nowadays are filled with information that is thrown out as quickly as it can be received in order to qualify as 'breaking news', and it is so poorly researched that incorrect information is quite common...not to mention the grammatical errors and poor spelling that is rampant.

But, I guess that is what we must come to expect from future generations who are not taught how to write with a pen and paper, and who only know slang, shorthand, LOL's OMG's AFAIK's, IMHO's, ROTFLMAO's, etc.
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