Illinois Cornerbacks coach Steve Clinkscale headed to Cincinnati

KJKobs · Feb 19, 2013, 08:36 PM

https://twitter.com/RyanEasterling

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Illinois DB coach Steve Clinkscale will be moving on to coach in a different program next year.

quhawks12 · Feb 19, 2013, 08:37 PM

Headed to Cincinnatti.

BigStan97 · Feb 19, 2013, 08:40 PM

this is crazy how many coaches have moved on and new faces have come in only after one year.

BZuppke · Feb 19, 2013, 08:49 PM

Now I'm finally starting to wonder. Each move has been rationalized in one way or another and I've mostly bought it. Leaving for Cincinnatti? The phrase leaving a sinking ship comes to mind. Tell me I'm wrong.

cmore · Feb 19, 2013, 08:52 PM

At risk of sounding like a drama queen, but the football program seems to be in shambles.

trevdv · Feb 19, 2013, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BZuppke

Now I'm finally starting to wonder. Each move has been rationalized in one way or another and I've mostly bought it. Leaving for Cincinnatti? The phrase leaving a sinking ship comes to mind. Tell me I'm wrong.

You're not wrong; I agree. This program seems to be very much so 'in shambles.'

Groundhogday · Feb 19, 2013, 09:05 PM

Wow. Beckman gave Clink his start. This is a big shock.

trevdv · Feb 19, 2013, 09:09 PM

Ouch. The more I think about it, the more this hurts...ouch.

Gonzalez? "Encouraged" to leave.

Butkus? "Encouraged" to leave.

Clinkscale? Beckman's "guy" that left on his own. Uh oh.

Juice · Feb 19, 2013, 09:09 PM

I don't think there's any way you can say our football program is looking up or has the potential to. Who knows what's going on.

TEYPAY · Feb 19, 2013, 09:27 PM

QU - where are you - what is your thoughts?

apett8 · Feb 19, 2013, 09:36 PM

Well I'd guess we end up with an entirely new coaching staff after this year anyway (barring some sort of miracle), so its now rather than later, I suppose.

carmelillini · Feb 19, 2013, 09:51 PM

Something is rotten in Denmark.

NorthwesternIllini4 · Feb 19, 2013, 09:52 PM

This is not comforting in the least.

I hate to sound melodramatic, but our football program is hemorrhaging big-time, and it appears there's nothing we can do to stop the bleeding. Beckman appears to be running out of answers, and Thomas can't fire him because that would effectively pull the plug on our nearly comatose program.

I didn't expect us to win more than 2 games next year, but at least show material progress and the building of an identity. It's incredibly hard to do that when you bring the wrong coaching personnel in at so many critical positions. Hopefully he'll get this turned around, but things look pretty bleak

trevdv · Feb 19, 2013, 10:15 PM

I blame this on Jealous Renee.

Groundhogday · Feb 19, 2013, 10:18 PM

So how does Beckman possibly spin this. Now he is left with 2 coaches from his Toledo staff, Ward and Golesh, and 4 of 9 assistant coaches from his Year 1 staff at Illinois (Ward, Golesh, Salem, and Banks.) This might really be unprecedented for a high major program. Beckman is making the Brewster train wreck at Minnesota look like a model of stability.

I could see a light at the end of the tunnel if he was clearing the deck to bring in better coaches, as we say after the 2009 season, but the new hires are primarily guys with no other options. I'm stunned.

Juice · Feb 19, 2013, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhogday

So how does Beckman possibly spin this. Now he is left with 2 coaches from his Toledo staff, Ward and Golesh, and 4 of 9 assistant coaches from his Year 1 staff at Illinois (Ward, Golesh, Salem, and Banks.) This might really be unprecedented for a high major program. Beckman is making the Brewster train wreck at Minnesota look like a model of stability.

I could see a light at the end of the tunnel if he was clearing the deck to bring in better coaches, as we say after the 2009 season, but the new hires are primarily guys with no other options. I'm stunned.

Yup. Not good when you see posts like this from GHD.

calibear · Feb 20, 2013, 12:38 AM

I can not say I was impressed with the cb play last season. While it is disturbing to hear another coach maybe or is likely leaving I can not count the number of times I read on different sites includuing loyalty that some wanted every single coach gone. I am not speaking of firing the entire staff, rater lil bob wanted x gone jimmy joe wanted y and x. So many are getting their wish while rejoicing with I told you so comes along the cry of the sky is falling.
I don't feel like further remarking on thy other, until the Colby hiring I was fine actually thought we well could be upgrading the staff. I will hold my own council until the staff is complete before an opinion.
My concern is recruiting as inroads made at some schools are gone and we will have to find new connections or connections to new schools further hurting recruiting for next year. Also kids not here to fore a concern about transfering may rear its ugly head.

Shenanigans · Feb 20, 2013, 01:09 AM

Id like to be a fly on the wall in Mike Thomas' office right now.

BexleyIllini · Feb 20, 2013, 03:02 AM

Anyone know the terms of TB's contract? How much will it cost the university if (when) he is canned next year?

TooHot4Tots · Feb 20, 2013, 04:20 AM

Interesting move as I thought these guys were buds. Any rumors as to a replacement?

illinicb · Feb 20, 2013, 04:42 AM

In and of itself, I wouldn't have put much weight on this, but this alongside the other changes, doesn't look good at least and probably isn't good. Hard to see a positive in this and I think it means that TB is on an even shorter leash and unless next year results in a winning season (I don't see that), I think the TB era may never get off the launch pad. Sure hope I'm wrong.

quhawks12 · Feb 20, 2013, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TEYPAY

QU - where are you - what is your thoughts?

Never good when one of "your guys" leaves.

ButkusDaBear · Feb 20, 2013, 06:22 AM

I don't know why this news is all that surprising. The grumblings have been pretty loud within the staff for months. It may not be over yet either. Just win baby and a lot will be forgotten

SCillini · Feb 20, 2013, 06:25 AM

This ship is sinking fast, and it barely left the dock. One of TB's "guys" leaves for Cincy, in the fading Big Least. There's nothing encouraging about this program right now. After the two or three wins we get next year, can we just detonate this disaster?

blmillini · Feb 20, 2013, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SCillini

This ship is sinking fast, and it barely left the dock. One of TB's "guys" leaves for Cincy, in the fading Big Least. There's nothing encouraging about this program right now. After the two or three wins we get next year, can we just detonate this disaster?

two or three wins... an optimist!!!:laugh:

Feb 19, 2013, 09:05 PM	#7
Groundhogday Posts: 18,074	Wow. Beckman gave Clink his start. This is a big shock. __________________ ONLY ORANGE!

Feb 19, 2013, 09:09 PM	#8
trevdv Location: Champaign Posts: 2,571	Ouch. The more I think about it, the more this hurts...ouch. Gonzalez? "Encouraged" to leave. Butkus? "Encouraged" to leave. Clinkscale? Beckman's "guy" that left on his own. Uh oh. __________________ That's a winner! http://www.youtube.com/user/97illinifan Last edited by trevdv; Feb 19, 2013 at 09:15 PM.

Feb 19, 2013, 10:15 PM	#14
trevdv Location: Champaign Posts: 2,571	I blame this on Jealous Renee. __________________ That's a winner! http://www.youtube.com/user/97illinifan

Feb 19, 2013, 10:18 PM	#15
Groundhogday Posts: 18,074	So how does Beckman possibly spin this. Now he is left with 2 coaches from his Toledo staff, Ward and Golesh, and 4 of 9 assistant coaches from his Year 1 staff at Illinois (Ward, Golesh, Salem, and Banks.) This might really be unprecedented for a high major program. Beckman is making the Brewster train wreck at Minnesota look like a model of stability. I could see a light at the end of the tunnel if he was clearing the deck to bring in better coaches, as we say after the 2009 season, but the new hires are primarily guys with no other options. I'm stunned. __________________ ONLY ORANGE!

Feb 20, 2013, 12:38 AM	#17
calibear Posts: 423	I can not say I was impressed with the cb play last season. While it is disturbing to hear another coach maybe or is likely leaving I can not count the number of times I read on different sites includuing loyalty that some wanted every single coach gone. I am not speaking of firing the entire staff, rater lil bob wanted x gone jimmy joe wanted y and x. So many are getting their wish while rejoicing with I told you so comes along the cry of the sky is falling. I don't feel like further remarking on thy other, until the Colby hiring I was fine actually thought we well could be upgrading the staff. I will hold my own council until the staff is complete before an opinion. My concern is recruiting as inroads made at some schools are gone and we will have to find new connections or connections to new schools further hurting recruiting for next year. Also kids not here to fore a concern about transfering may rear its ugly head. Last edited by calibear; Feb 20, 2013 at 12:43 AM.

Feb 19, 2013, 08:37 PM	#2
quhawks12 Location: Hamilton County, IN Posts: 3,357	Headed to Cincinnatti.

Feb 19, 2013, 08:40 PM	#3
BigStan97 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 1,049	this is crazy how many coaches have moved on and new faces have come in only after one year.

Feb 19, 2013, 08:49 PM	#4
BZuppke Location: Plainfield Posts: 153	Now I'm finally starting to wonder. Each move has been rationalized in one way or another and I've mostly bought it. Leaving for Cincinnatti? The phrase leaving a sinking ship comes to mind. Tell me I'm wrong.

Feb 19, 2013, 08:52 PM	#5
cmore Posts: 1,833	At risk of sounding like a drama queen, but the football program seems to be in shambles.

Feb 19, 2013, 09:09 PM	#9
Juice Posts: 1,540	I don't think there's any way you can say our football program is looking up or has the potential to. Who knows what's going on.

Feb 19, 2013, 09:27 PM	#10
TEYPAY Location: Springfield Posts: 1,131	QU - where are you - what is your thoughts?

Feb 19, 2013, 09:36 PM	#11
apett8 Posts: 77	Well I'd guess we end up with an entirely new coaching staff after this year anyway (barring some sort of miracle), so its now rather than later, I suppose.

Feb 19, 2013, 09:51 PM	#12
carmelillini Location: Hamilton Co. Posts: 2,064	Something is rotten in Denmark.

Feb 19, 2013, 09:52 PM	#13
NorthwesternIllini4 Location: Chicago Posts: 419	This is not comforting in the least. I hate to sound melodramatic, but our football program is hemorrhaging big-time, and it appears there's nothing we can do to stop the bleeding. Beckman appears to be running out of answers, and Thomas can't fire him because that would effectively pull the plug on our nearly comatose program. I didn't expect us to win more than 2 games next year, but at least show material progress and the building of an identity. It's incredibly hard to do that when you bring the wrong coaching personnel in at so many critical positions. Hopefully he'll get this turned around, but things look pretty bleak

Feb 20, 2013, 01:09 AM	#18
Shenanigans Location: Central Illinois Posts: 261	Id like to be a fly on the wall in Mike Thomas' office right now. __________________ Illini Bears Cubs Bulls Blackhawks

Feb 20, 2013, 03:02 AM	#19
BexleyIllini Posts: 388	Anyone know the terms of TB's contract? How much will it cost the university if (when) he is canned next year?

Feb 20, 2013, 04:20 AM	#20
TooHot4Tots Posts: 366	Interesting move as I thought these guys were buds. Any rumors as to a replacement?

Feb 20, 2013, 04:42 AM	#21
illinicb Location: Northbrook Posts: 5,754	In and of itself, I wouldn't have put much weight on this, but this alongside the other changes, doesn't look good at least and probably isn't good. Hard to see a positive in this and I think it means that TB is on an even shorter leash and unless next year results in a winning season (I don't see that), I think the TB era may never get off the launch pad. Sure hope I'm wrong. __________________ "I could care less" does not mean the same as "I couldn't care less"

Feb 20, 2013, 06:22 AM	#23
ButkusDaBear Posts: 82	I don't know why this news is all that surprising. The grumblings have been pretty loud within the staff for months. It may not be over yet either. Just win baby and a lot will be forgotten

Feb 20, 2013, 06:25 AM	#24
SCillini Posts: 352	This ship is sinking fast, and it barely left the dock. One of TB's "guys" leaves for Cincy, in the fading Big Least. There's nothing encouraging about this program right now. After the two or three wins we get next year, can we just detonate this disaster?