Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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ChiefGritty

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B-ILL said:
Predicted starting lineup next year (assuming no Domask or Hawkins):

Boswell
Storr
Rodgers
Hansberry
Dainja
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SescIllini said:
Starting 5...Storr, Parker, Ty, Dain. Garrison.
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Three non-shooters can't really work.

I said this awhile ago, while both have very unique oddball skillsets, Rodgers and Hawkins combine to have all the skills you need at the 1 and 5 jumbled between them. It just works as a pairing.

If our center is DD and Ty is the fixture we assume he will be, he either needs radical improvement as a 3 point shooter, or there really can't be another non-shooter out there.

This is all related to the reason I foresee Goode as a starter and major minutes getter next season. He defends, rebounds, and stretches the floor, that makes the game easier on everyone else.
 
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alexander58

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ChiefGritty said:

I'm a little skeptical. A skinny 6'4" with a mostly interior skillset. I see a poor man's Marcus Domask.

But on the flipside this was the highest scorer in the nation in Juco last year and scored the 14th most points in the country this year. A certified bucket getter no doubt, albeit not a terribly efficient or physically explosive one. He definitely has some Domask booty ball game to him.

What does a guy like this look like as a more complementary player? I assume he'd probably have to be? Not sure.
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The state connection is not as important as the fact he’s left handed.
 
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PepeSilvia

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Bigtex said:
Enough with the Mayer hate. If we had this version of Shannon, Mayer wouldn’t have had to create his own shot as much

Mayer was 3rd team big 10.

Storr as a freshman and sophomore significantly ahead of where Shannon was at the same time. Shannon upped his game / tbd how storr will progress.
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I've been saying this all year. If you could put Mayer on this team and let him play as the 3rd/4th option just shooting open spot ups and cutting he would be an absolute monster. He also was capable of guarding 1-5 and was the best shot blocker on the team.

Him and Coleman were both simply asked to do too much last year based on roster flaws. Also, until the last 3 games of the year where he had a slump Mayer was shooting 36-37% from 3 on tough shots that he had to create a lot of.
 
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PepeSilvia said:
I've been saying this all year. If you could put Mayer on this team and let him play as the 3rd/4th option just shooting open spot ups and cutting he would be an absolute monster. He also was capable of guarding 1-5 and was the best shot blocker on the team.

Him and Coleman were both simply asked to do too much last year based on roster flaws. Also, until the last 3 games of the year where he had a slump Mayer was shooting 36-37% from 3 on tough shots that he had to create a lot of.
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I don't think that Mayer's mentality would allow him to be a 3rd option. He and TJ wanted to share shots. He would flat out say it in press conferences. He shot us into a lot of games, but the reverse was also true. That game vs Arkansas, which I was there for, was uninspiring. Ty and Hawk didn't mention names specifically, but I'm pretty sure that MM was the object of some of the "addition by subtraction" lingo.
 
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ChiefGritty said:
Three non-shooters can't really work.

I said this awhile ago, while both have very unique oddball skillsets, Rodgers and Hawkins combine to have all the skills you need at the 1 and 5 jumbled between them. It just works as a pairing.

If our center is DD and Ty is the fixture we assume he will be, he either needs radical improvement as a 3 point shooter, or there really can't be another non-shooter out there.

This is all related to the reason I foresee Goode as a starter and major minutes getter next season. He defends, rebounds, and stretches the floor, that makes the game easier on everyone else.
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I'm going to preface this by saying I love Dain and these last few weeks show you what a weapon he can be but he has limitations.

Dain would be best off as a 20 minute per game guy in a platoon role with another big that complements him. Ideally get another center in the portal that can protect the rim and defend our to the 3pt line.

In that role, Ty can push up towards 28-30 mins a game without sharing the court for more than 4-5 mins each half.

The bigger question mark imo is Harris. I love his athleticism and defensive intensity but it's hard to play a guard with no offensive skills. He really needs to have improved his handle and shot this year. If he can drive and get to the basket and shoot enough to keep teams honest he will be fine and his upside is unlimited with his athleticism.
 
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Second place is 1st loser said:
I don't think that Mayer's mentality would allow him to be a 3rd option. He and TJ wanted to share shots. He would flat out say it in press conferences. He shot us into a lot of games, but the reverse was also true. That game vs Arkansas, which I was there for, was uninspiring. Ty and Hawk didn't mention names specifically, but I'm pretty sure that MM was the object of some of the "addition by subtraction" lingo.
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Maybe but he did it at Baylor and was a huge piece for their national championship team.
 
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rtbritt

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I thought AJ Storr was in Kankaee, not Rockford? Did he play in both cities?

Or maybe its just a wrong memory on my part.
 
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3nDGuy

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I'll play the hypothetical roster game..

PG - Boswell
G - Storr
F/G - Ty
F - Saint Thomas OR Mikael Brown-Jones (just one, can't get greedy)
C - Kalkbrenner

Bench
G - Marcus Hill OR Sencire Harris
G - Buck
G - DGL
G - Jase Butler
G/F - Goode
F - Morez
F - Amani
C - Dain

and... Jakstys and Moretti take walk-on roles w/ Luther Head footing the bill.

I'd be content w/ this scenario.
 
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NCIllini10

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Yes33 said:
It was very obvious that when Hawkins had to guard physical 5’s, he was overmatched. Other than Darin, we have no one strong enough to guard Clifford Omoruyi types. Let’s get Cliff?

Also, I don’t know where Amani or Morez fit, 5’s? Seems like we need a 4 that can shoot like Quincy, I don’t see that in those two young guys.
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Have you seen Amani shoot?
 
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OrangeKrush1981

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LvilleILL said:
All in on Maddox right now...they want him as their 6th man
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It would be great to have a warrior in the backcourt. True guard: handles, zip, power, agility, court-awareness and cunning. If that is Maddox, and he makes winning plays, all right. (I don't doubt anything, never seen the dude play, but just saying it's all about making winning plays. Sounds like this kid might maybe hopefully do that. )
 
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TheodoreRex

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DB11Headband said:
This should give folks an idea of what type of starting lineup we’ll have next year if he’s coming off the bench.
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How would you describe Maddox game? How would he compare to someone like Harmon who has been that 6-7 man off the bench?
 
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Indy Illini Fan

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LvilleILL said:
All in on Maddox right now...they want him as their 6th man
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