Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
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yep. he wants to come to Illinois and I still expect he will. just wants to get his $
Think he was a package deal but Storrs camp told them Hill doesn’t move the needle for them so they backed off would be my assumption
Stanford kid fills the top spot. But he has everyone looking at him. Not sure what his NIL asking is but we will hopefully be in the game
ppg doesn't tell much in this case. In his last two years at TT, TSJ scored about 25-29 points per 100 possessions, had a true shooting % of 56-58%, and win shares of 0.165-0.195. In his first year with us, he was at the high end of those ranges yet increased ppg by playing more minutes and taking more shots.
I'm sure it required improvement to earn more playing time and get more shots, but those pre-Illinois efficiency metrics are way above any of the rumored/confirmed transfers.
There is no guarantee AJ is 1 and done here and there is no such thing as “multi-year guys” anymore. I understand how new this all feels and not being accustomed to it yet, but this is the Wild West and it’s going to be every single year.
Kid from Stanford fits perfectly in 5 out. Gotta put a man in him. Over 35% on 3’s
I'll be honest after reading these threads the last several days, I ask: who is Jake Davis? LOL.
With all who we should be getting, Jake Davis for all I know will be:
Oh okay so we’ll find out he’s going to Baylor in August then
Where does it stop though in terms of the $ ask? Giving AJ Storr close to a mil just seems crazy to me.
You are really grasping at straws here. Ayo outperformed expectations. Kofi outperformed expectations. TSJ outperformed expectations. Domask outperformed expectations. Hawkins outperformed expectations. I'm sure there are more but that, though by itself, is outstanding track record for a period of 4-5 years.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
It is really annoying that we all have to kind of nod along to this world of make-believe that every top 100 recruit and every desirable transfer (a universe of 200+ guys) is being recruited to next year's team in order to immediately then become an NBA player. Even mentioning the thought of evolving at a college program from one year to the next is a faux pas, despite the mathematical fact that it will be the reality for the vast majority.
The dark outcome for college basketball is one where that leads to a very common path of 3-4 schools in 4 eligible seasons and lots of kids still going pro with little change of sticking in the NBA. Just constant chaos and disappointment and no connection between players and programs.
The happy outcome is one where NIL usually attaches top HS players and supplementary mid-major transfer ups to top tier schools until either graduation or genuine first-round status.
A huge huge difference between those in terms how how much interest there is going to be for this sport in 10 years, IMHO
McGuppin
- Chicago via Central IL
A totally legitimate objective on his part, IMO (understand you aren't saying otherwise). That's the beauty of capitalism. He can test the free market and maximize his earnings. We can either take it, or leave it. Brad and his assistants benefit from the same system. I'm good with it all the way around.
We are all free to do the same in our jobs/careers/pursuits.
...and those who were befuddled by Domask apparently didn't look much at his stats. Those suggested he was good, and were better than the rumored/confirmed transfers. 56.6% true shooting, 0.162 win shares/40, 29pts/100 possessions.
Regurgitate all the stats you want.
My point is that this staff should have earned a lot of confidence from folks that they're currently not getting. Argue that point if you'd like, I have no interest in a statistical presentation ping-pong match here.
drsmitty74
- Rochester
Mark Mitchell, Duke Blue Devils, Small Forward
Mark Mitchell is a 6-7, 185-pound Small Forward from Mission, KS.
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Insiders, any interest?
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
The staff deserves confidence that Tre White is going to be developed into the star he had the talent to be in HS, but the staff also deserves confidence that they are cooking and Denzel-ing so elite-ly that Tre White is going to be the 7th man.
It gets tiresome, guys.
The more I read about Storr, the less I like him. Multiple high-schools, multiple colleges, selfish player jacking up shots without playing defense. Huge talent though. Just hope he doesn't cause problems in the lockeroom. I will trust Brad, but I'm very skeptical.
Eh, you make a fair point - you're not wrong... but also, the internet's gonna internet.
My personal stance is
Pink Floyd / Basketball songs alphabeticalJust work on being comfortably numb until the roster is set.
Portal Recruiting: Bring the Boys Back Home
Decommits: (Don't be) Burning Bridges
You're not playing high school ball anymore: Childhood's End
Clark & Epps: Cluster (F) One
Portal outgoing: Don't Leave Me Now
Brad can count (scholarships): Empty Spaces
Brad: Fearless
Creaning (other schools): The Final Cut
Walk-on power forward: Free Four
NIL: Green is the Colour
Podz: The Gunner's Dream
1989 / 2005: The Happiest Days of our Lives
Every autumn: High Hopes
Recruiting (Groce Era): Is There Anybody Out There
Arizona regional final: It's Never Too Late
Most Big Ten wins last 5 years: It's What We Do
Increasing Storr's NIL offer: Keep Talking
Free throws 22-23: The Last Few Bricks
Transition from a defensive to an offensive team: Learning to Fly
NIL speaks: Louder Than Words
Above the table now: Money
Recruiting family issues: Mother
Groce job retention 2017: Not Now John
TSJ in transition: On the Run
TSJ with the block: On the Turning Away
TSJ in the rafters: One of the Few
Trent in the rafters (?): One of These Days
30-0 run: One Slip
Positionless basketball: P(i)Gs on the Wing
Supersoakers out: Run Like Hell
Loyalty insiders: A Saucerful of Secrets
DJ Carstensen: Skins
On the portal fence: Stay
Coleman: Talkin' Hawkin'
What damn channel is the tourney game on: TBS9
Whoops my bad, it's actually on: TBS14
Coleman technical foul risk at tipoff of any Big Ten game: The Thin Ice
Coleman learns to rein it in by the postseason: Things Left Unsaid
That's allowed in the NBA you know: The Travel Sequence
Pregame attitude: Us and Them
Playing Penn State tomorrow: Wine Glasses
High School Recruiting: Wish You Were Here
The Galloping Ghost
- Washington, DC
I know we are long past the lie of the student-athlete, as we should be, but man, a lotta kids are going to be left with 4 years of school from 3 to 4 colleges and a mass of credits, but no real way to translate that into any sort of diploma. Kinda of a shame.
You're assuming something I'm not saying. I'm merely saying the stats of the confirmed/rumored transfers are worse than TSJ's and Domasks were. I'm not saying they can't or won't improve or that the coaches are making poor decisions. Lots of our recruits have improved. TSJ and Domask improved (well, Domask didn't statistically, but that's probably due to our team defense metrics pulling his numbers down as well as higher level of competition).
I just think there's a bit of false equality between the incoming transfers and pre-Illinois TSJ/Domask based on stats. The incoming ones have further to go statistically to be at their level. And TSJ's big statistical improvement was in his second year, so it's false to imply we can count on a big jump in the first year for incoming transfers.
Everybody is forgetting about Morez Johnson he is going to be our starting center next year
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