Well, to be fair here, the two guys we landed are said to be back-of-the-rotation guys. So of course we're not expecting Jake Davis & Tre White to be All Americans next year. Who said that? Not me.
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Well, to be fair here, the two guys we landed are said to be back-of-the-rotation guys. So of course we're not expecting Jake Davis & Tre White to be All Americans next year. Who said that? Not me.
Thinking mostly about Marcus here. He had several inches on the guys we are bringing in plus was outstanding with the fadeaway. Remove either the height or the shooting skillset and I foresee balls being swatted down. We'll see and hope I'm fretting about nothing.
Hey, we're all friends here, or should be
Why are these Purdue role players leaving?
Hey, I enjoy these discussions & arguments. I'm admittedly very optimistic too. But I have started to think I have good reason to be.
I don't think Tre White or Jake Davis are going to be TSJ/Domask, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone else we take on (or already have here), can eventually reach that level.
Maddox had a TS% of 64% as a junior and 59% last year. He played a lot more minutes then TSJ did, albeit at a much lower level of competition. Boswell's was 58% as a freshman.
TSJ had a 21% TO rate his last year at Texas Tech. He had a 106.8 ORating at KenPom. AJ Storr's was 106.4 last year.
Advanced stats can tell a lot of stories, but there was essentially no way to predict that TSJ would reach the level he did this past season.
Any interest in Gillis, insiders?
I'm ready for the phrase "with that being said" to go the way of the dodo.
I'm looking at Storr/Boswell/Maddox. By TS%, win shares/40, ORtg/DRtg, etc, they are a step down from pre-Illinois TSJ and Domask.
I'm not saying they can't/won't be good. It's just that the proposition is different. With TSJ, we were counting on him maintaining his efficiency with higher usage. With Domask, we were counting on him maintaining his efficiency with tougher competition. Neither of those things were guaranteed, and the coaches deserve credit for that.
With Storr/Boswell/Maddox, we're counting on them being much more efficient (and, in Maddox's case, even with tougher competition), and I personally think that's more risky. In Storr's case, that's with presumably less usage, and he's very highly regarded, so there's of course reason to hope.
We lost out on a B10 title due to missing a veteran PG down the stretch of 4 close games. I don't know how you don't talk about that.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
illini0440 said:
Starting 5:
Transfer PG
TJ
Ty
Coleman
Dain
Book it
From after Domask committed last year.
I approve of the vote of confidence in my guy Dain, but I can't just let this "oh it's those same negative nancies who don't believe in the staff's scouting like when they all doubted Domask" thing stand.
Lol, I just found my response to the above
Starting 5:
Transfer PG
TJ
Ty
Coleman
Dain
Book it
From after Domask committed last year.
I approve of the vote of confidence in my guy Dain, but I can't just let this "oh it's those same negative nancies who don't believe in the staff's scouting like when they all doubted Domask" thing stand.
Lol, I just found my response to the above
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Mr. Tibbs
- southeast DuPage
so true
but is that any worse fate than all the "regular" students paying $140,000 or more for a diploma in some of these disciplines where the prospects of getting any kind of job using that degree are about 1 in 100 ?
traditional colleges and universities need to radically reconsider what they are trying to "sell" to all the students who are not in STEM .
Its a discussion for another day
So your saying that as a fan base we have low expectations?
Is this legit?
What's there to talk about? I'm not gonna begin to unpack that one, other than we can agree to disagree that replacing Domask with a guy who turned the ball over 60% more times this season gives us 4 more wins.
DB11Headband
- Chicago Burbs
source is not, but what they are saying is
I will eat my hat if Boswell isn't publicly committed by Monday.
I can’t wait until the dead period is done tomorrow.
Absolutely not lol
Rocket City Illini
- Belleville, IL
I know everyone is assuming he's coming here, but I'll wait until the more established journalists publish a commitment before I consider it a done deal.
I HIGHLY doubt that Brad would guarantee a starting spot for a Freshman. That would go against everything that he believes in with regards to wanting to be "old" and having guys earn their stripes.
Coleman was a liability in the paint. It's not his fault, he was 50 pounds lighter than those he was asked to body up. At 6'10", Coleman was clearly more comfortable on the perimeter. Nothing wrong with that assessment.
Pretty sure he did for Clark.
The Eric Bossi crytal ball on 247 yesterday was more legit than this - and was probably the source for that tweet (or maybe that account reads this board ha!)
You're not wrong. But, with that being said, that phrase isn't going anywhere.
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