Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Underwood has pulled rabbits out of his hat so many times that you feel a bit ridiculous doubting him, it's like thinking the supervillain is actually going to kill James Bond this time.

But, just observing, that laser is getting uncomfortably close to 007's groin here.
This is more of what comes to mind for me
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Is someone choosing this? You could make a great argument that the NCAA created this mess by choosing to ignore the eventuality of player compensation, but the current situation is a product of the chaos of that inaction. I don’t think anyone is looking at the current rules and saying “yep… nailed it”, they just can’t do very much about it right now.
The NCAA chose not to fight after one federal judge in WV granted a TRO on Antitrust grounds. They passed a rule approving unlimited transfers transfers as long as they are not mid-season and bogus academic progress requirements are met. What's to stop mid-year transfers? That decision was for its own financial benefit. Its their money grab until they are forced to go away entirely.
 
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Is someone choosing this? You could make a great argument that the NCAA created this mess by choosing to ignore the eventuality of player compensation, but the current situation is a product of the chaos of that inaction. I don’t think anyone is looking at the current rules and saying “yep… nailed it”, they just can’t do very much about it right
Random thoughts on solutions:

1) players union, seems unlikely a bunch of spoiled teenagers who look only 1-4 years out will make this happen. It isn’t at all clear who that Union would negotiate with unless the NCAA allowed for direct payments from schools. Individual NIL providers are exempt from salary caps even in pro sports.

2) congress grants the NCAA an antitrust exemption like Major League Baseball. This seems unlikely though as no one trusts the NCAA enough to grant them any extraordinary rights.

3) congress grants some new organization an antitrust exemption with enough caveats to protect players from the real abuses they suffered under the NCAA. Maybe the University Chancellors from the Power 5 get together. But given the existing PR problems higher education currently faces, I expect colleges football and basketball would have to completely implode for this to happen.

4) seems unlikely we would ever get to the point where a billionaire or corporation is prevented from entering an agreement with another individual. So 1-3 might apply only to average D1 players for a base salary. The superstars still being able to advertise for State Farm or Nike.

In other words, get used to the chaos…
 
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What in the world are you talking about? Every other post I read is someone freaking out or not being able to follow along with the thread and asking about players that have been talked about over and over. I didn’t even mention people freaking out and you put worlds in my mouth. Why do you feel the need to interject all the time with baseless arguments? It’s gotten beyond annoying to be honest.
Raising questions about how things are going or asking for a reasonable time-line is not freaking out. I am actually surprised that there haven't been more posts that I would categorize as actually freaking out or a super hot take.
 
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Random thoughts on solutions:

1) players union, seems unlikely a bunch of spoiled teenagers who look only 1-4 years out will make this happen. It isn’t at all clear who that Union would negotiate with unless the NCAA allowed for direct payments from schools. Individual NIL providers are exempt from salary caps even in pro sports.

2) congress grants the NCAA an antitrust exemption like Major League Baseball. This seems unlikely though as no one trusts the NCAA enough to grant them any extraordinary rights.

3) congress grants some new organization an antitrust exemption with enough caveats to protect players from the real abuses they suffered under the NCAA. Maybe the University Chancellors from the Power 5 get together. But given the existing PR problems higher education currently faces, I expect colleges football and basketball would have to completely implode for this to happen.

4) seems unlikely we would ever get to the point where a billionaire or corporation is prevented from entering an agreement with another individual. So 1-3 might apply only to average D1 players for a base salary. The superstars still being able to advertise for State Farm or Nike.

In other words, get used to the chaos…
Nature abhors a vacuum.
 
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Portal window closing, a lot of names we bandied about have gone elsewhere. It's starting to feel like we are going to replace a bunch of guys who didn't see much PT with players of similar caliber.
 
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Is someone choosing this? You could make a great argument that the NCAA created this mess by choosing to ignore the eventuality of player compensation, but the current situation is a product of the chaos of that inaction. I don’t think anyone is looking at the current rules and saying “yep… nailed it”, they just can’t do very much about it right now.
There is an important factor missing from your statement, but i don't mean to pick on you Emerson, as i would say it is missing, again, from most discussion of this subject.

If one could say the NCAA "created this mess by choosing to ignore the eventuality of player compensation," then one can still say it, because players are not being compensated. They are being paid, yes, but they are not being paid by the entity that profits off of their labor, the NCAA. Instead the situation is closer to that of a glorified waitstaff being tipped (ever more incredible sums) by donors because the employer doesn't pay them at all. The NCAA is running a fantastic con. It won't last forever, but it is glorious.

The NCAA absolutely did nail it - in the short term. The players aren't complaining about not getting paid, and the NCAA didn't have to pay them.
 
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Trilly says in his discord that Humrichous hasn’t decided yet and that he’s heard nothing about David Jones and entering the portal so far. So when is it time to panic?
Panic when fall classes start.
 
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Think that Posh Alexander would look good as one guard,any chance with Aziz Bandaogo,elite rim protector.
 
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but the other side of that coin is if we are not successful, will interest drop off? This is why I've said Underwood better win. Because if you literally do a line change with the roster, you've taken away one of the draws to the team. So if I'm watching a bunch of strangers finish 6th in conference. That's not going to go over well.
I'm trying to catch up, but, if someone hasn't beaten me to it, I have to ask "Is sixth out of 18 so bad? Seems as good as top 4 out of 10 or 12 or almost with 14, which was always kind of the standard as to what a good season was.
 
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