Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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No idea if this info is accurate, but while we are waiting for more concrete info on Tomislav or other targets, I thought I’d stir the pot.

If we do end up missing on Demin, is it plausible/possible that we land a portal guard/wing for the “2” (using the position terms loosely) and then still be able to afford to pay Coleman enough to come back and play the “3”? Would we want that? Would he want that?

I’m still remembering Coleman guarding AJ Storr effectively in the second half of the BTT championship (with a bum knee, no less) and thinking he’d be just fine guarding wings full time. In other words, I trust Coleman guarding more athletic wings than I would guys like Humrichous or Guerrier, so I'm wondering if you could play Coleman as your 3 alongside Humrichous at the 4, hypothetically.
I’ve had the same thought. I think Coleman could guard most wings really well. He won’t be the 20ppg scorer we are used to, but still coul add a ton of value.
 
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If we do end up missing on Demin, is it plausible/possible that we land a portal guard/wing for the “2” (using the position terms loosely) and then still be able to afford to pay Coleman enough to come back and play the “3”? Would we want that? Would he want that?
Insiders have said for a while now that the money will always be there for Coleman to return- that they would find more money from donors for a known returnee and it doesn’t impact the pool we already have

So the door is always open for Coleman and when we land Ivisic it will make it even more attractive for Coleman to return- he obviously doesn’t want to play the 5 again- it might mean we lose Ben or Booth which would be a shame, but we would be big ten title contenders again with Coleman back and any of the SG’d we're in on
 
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Epsilon

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Just found an interesting blurb that mentions all the two-way contract players for the 2023-2024 season to see what kind of company CH would be in. Article also describes what a 2-way contract is for anyone who needs a refresher. Also interesting is that you are only eligible for one for up to three years. So if you are on the bubble and can’t break into the league full time, it’s much harder to get an in after that.

 
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Some of you need to learn how to count.

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robertgoulet

IL Board Resident Crooner
Austin, TX
The issue for CH right now is that he's not getting any younger, which hurts him. Coming back really is unlikely to improve his stock much. In addition, this is a historically weak draft.

On the other hand, can you really pass on a guaranteed $1MM like he'd probably get returning to school? Such a tough decision.
 
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The issue for CH right now is that he's not getting any younger, which hurts him. Coming back really is unlikely to improve his stock much. In addition, this is a historically weak draft.

On the other hand, can you really pass on a guaranteed $1MM like he'd probably get returning to school? Such a tough decision.
For me if those numbers are accurate it would be a pretty easy one for about 420,000 reasons plus he seems to be having a blast kicking field goals too! Bird/sure cash in hand...and be set up.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
On the other hand, can you really pass on a guaranteed $1MM like he'd probably get returning to school?
He already made a bunch this year, and the real money (not to mention the real career, the real achievement as a basketball player, the real fulfilling of his dreams) is in sticking in the NBA, where he's never going to have a better chance than right now.

I'd love to have him next year, but I also really want to see him make it as a pro and this is his moment.
 
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He already made a bunch this year, and the real money (not to mention the real career, the real achievement as a basketball player, the real fulfilling of his dreams) is in sticking in the NBA, where he's never going to have a better chance than right now.

I'd love to have him next year, but I also really want to see him make it as a pro and this is his moment.
A lot depends on how well he plays at the Chicago camp next week.
 
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robertgoulet

IL Board Resident Crooner
Austin, TX
He already made a bunch this year, and the real money (not to mention the real career, the real achievement as a basketball player, the real fulfilling of his dreams) is in sticking in the NBA, where he's never going to have a better chance than right now.

I'd love to have him next year, but I also really want to see him make it as a pro and this is his moment.
I do think long-term it's better for him to stick in the draft this year and make a go if it, fwiw.
 
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He already made a bunch this year, and the real money (not to mention the real career, the real achievement as a basketball player, the real fulfilling of his dreams) is in sticking in the NBA, where he's never going to have a better chance than right now.

I'd love to have him next year, but I also really want to see him make it as a pro and this is his moment.
I agree…. but it’s a gamble. This is the year to go and eventually prove himself, but he’d potentially be leaving a lot of money in the table by doing so. In my non-expert opinion, his gamble is better than Kofi’s was. There’s room in today’s NBA for a guy with Coleman’s skill set. Kofi was 20 years too late.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
I agree…. but it’s a gamble. This is the year to go and eventually prove himself, but he’d potentially be leaving a lot of money in the table by doing so. In my non-expert opinion, his gamble is better than Kofi’s was. There’s room in today’s NBA for a guy with Coleman’s skill set. Kofi was 20 years too late.
Kofi also hadn't gotten a real NIL bag yet. He made a mistake, it's a bummer.

Coleman has looked like the style of player who winds up better in the NBA than college from the moment he stepped on the floor for us as a freshman. Both he and TSJ are so NBA-friendly in the way they play already (unlike, say, Ayo who has had to change his offensive game quite a bit)
 
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I do think long-term it's better for him to stick in the draft this year and make a go if it, fwiw.
I am not so sure. TSJ is a year and a half older than Coleman and coming back he drastically improved his draft stock. If Coleman played this well on a bumm knee then maybe he could make a similar leap improving his shot even more while becoming even more mobile and versatile when healthy. I know this is a down draft but next years isn't elite either and a healthy Coleman could jump up just like TSJ did this year and be 6 months younger than TSJ in entering next years draft.
 
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Coleman was dealing with a condition called patellar tendinitis last year. That condition is exacerbated with activity, naturally during the start of and during the season he couldn’t rest.

I’m sure with the rest that he’s now getting and with the physiotherapy, including ultrasound, acupuncture, muscle stimulation and with the rehabilitation for strengthening the intrinsic muscles around the quadricep region, his knee should be feeling much better now.

The bottom line is money for him. He feels short changed last year because he didn’t make the same amount as TSJ although he never complained about it as he wouldn’t.

But this year he’s going to be smart so the two-way will pay close to $600,000 and an additional possible $200,000 that will be on the table for a two-way player so you’re looking at around $800,000. Can the Illini come up with 1 million to keep him? It’s in our court.

The thing that Coleman needs to look at is how much more advanced his game will be without the tendinitis this coming year and with his work ethic and his IQ on the court which is off the chart. He could easily work up to become a top 10 pick the following draft where there’s millions and millions of dollars to be made with guaranteed contracts.
 
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