Illini_1979
- Oregon
And, please, it's Meyers Leonard (think of the lemon).
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (October 2017)
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Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
Try:
Meyers Leonard
Deron Williams
Luther Head
Dee Brown
James Augustine
Roger Powell
Brandon Paul
4-6 were short NBA careers and 7 is just starting, but you don't get to list back to Chris Paul and ignore the guys who beat down his #1 team.
I think the Dosunmus are smart enough to realize that almost all of those guys weren't coached by manning AND that if you're good enough it probablyd doesn't matter what major school you go at a certain point... outside of NBA factories that will get a real earned or undearned bump in legitimacy like your Dukes, KUs, Kentuckys, Zonas, etc.......a
and BU just had a PG drafted this year in Jawun Evans.
I'm not saying that's unimportant, but I would think theyd be more swayed by who the current coach has put in the league, not previous staffs, unless you can somehow argue that just being Wake Forest gives some sort of bump in the NBA eval process?
Agree with you that Manning should have more contacts in the NBA, but if you're a confident 5 star, do you think your making the NBA will come down to who your college coach can schmooz? I'm thinking Ayo thinks/knows, right or wrong, that his game will have the GMs calling his coaches, not the other way around.
You are making it hard on yourself. These kids and their parents are not master psychologists with PhD's and grand schemes to full and mislead people, executing a long term plans. I've been coaching AAU and been involved with recruits for a long time. Master psychologists they are not.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
Beware of deacons in sheep's clothing......
Is there really a point in discussing players at either school that have gone pro in the last 10 years when barely any of them were coached by the current coach?
Danny gets John Collins and Brad gets Jawun Evans
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Danny gets John Collins and Brad gets Jawun Evans
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So, who is staking out the bakeries near Morgan Park high school tomorrow?
Illiniwek06
- N of I-80
FeelTheLovie
- Louisville, KY
Isn’t it a shame how terrible you all have been despite all those great players?
While it left out Brandon Paul, I think the comparison was for those currently playing in the NBA. Which is fair, but not really relevant to the coaches involved.
What I find amusing is the glass-house mentality of many posters on the Wake board. In the past ten years, Wake has won 60 conferences games; we've won 78. They've been to the First Four once, the First Round once, and the Second Round once; we've been to the First Round once and the Second Round twice.
What I find amusing is the glass-house mentality of many posters on the Wake board. In the past ten years, Wake has won 60 conferences games; we've won 78. They've been to the First Four once, the First Round once, and the Second Round once; we've been to the First Round once and the Second Round twice.
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
A. I can state with absolute certainty that Ayo's ideal situation is to play 1 year of college basketball, be drafted in the lottery and make millions of dollars playing the game he loves. I can also state with certainty that if Ayo doesn't declare for the NBA after his first year that his 2nd choice would be to play two years of college basketball, be drafted in the lottery and make millions of dollars playing the game he loves.
B. Moot point. Was discussing Ayo's primary objective of advancing his career.
C. Was using a list of active players. Did leave out Brandon Paul of the San Antonio Spurs / Austin Spurs
D. That is a great contact to have. Doesn't negate that Manning had almost a 20 year playing career, and is a former player that can get a meeting with anyone at any time in the world of basketball simply because he is Danny Manning.
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Really? Absolute certainty? This means you have an actual quote from Ayo stating these intentions. Let's see the link?
It's not a moot point because you chose to use those examples as an indication of what Ayo could expect simply by choosing WF.
Lastly, good idea. You aren't going down a rabbit hole, you are digging it.
Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
And by our perspective, our last 10 years are the worst since the 70's. As has been mentioned, their coach won 1 more game than ours, and ours was fired.
A little hyperbole on his part, but don't you think that is an "ideal" situation for any player?
You don't think Smith, Williams, Frazier or even Spicy G wouldn't leave after one or even two years if they were guaranteed lottery pick?
Not likely, but wouldn't it be ideal for them?
Peoria Illini
- Peoria, IL
The wave of the future appears to be "positionless" basketball. Underwood is one of the leading college coaches of this style of play. What type of offense does Manning coach/teach at Wake?
Another WF re-tweet from Ayo.
https://twitter.com/qwiktrip/status/920759471525302273
Literally no Illinois retweets since his visit ended versus a dozen or so for WF. He's either trying to let us down early or doing an epic troll job on WF.
https://twitter.com/qwiktrip/status/920759471525302273
Literally no Illinois retweets since his visit ended versus a dozen or so for WF. He's either trying to let us down early or doing an epic troll job on WF.
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
I see the basis for his point, and for your question. I suppose the extra qualifications of "drafted in the lottery" and make "millions" of dollars would be seen as "ideal" for a majority of players. But how could we possibly know that a kid doesn't see winning NCAA titles and getting a degree as "ideal"?
Hyperbole on my part as well.
My point was it's not a certainty, it's just more of us speculating.
Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
Honest question, I do not frequent twitter. Has he been tagged on pro-Illini tweets and not responded? Or have there just not been any? Come on twitter folks, do your stuff!!! j/k
So much this. If Wake fans and Illini fans can't see that we're essentially one in the same at this point in time, everyone is blind. I'm especially liking the Wake posts of "Ayo wants Wake, but family/history/loyalty is really pushing Illinois" only because I'm so used to seeing it ad nauseam on this site.
Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
Frank Williams did not go pro after his red shirt sophomore year, when he was projected #2 (it's been a while, sorry if off a little). He went after his r/s junior year, with a degree and was drafted in the 20's.
By the way, Tyrone Wheatley, RB UM, has a similar situation, waited a year and it cost him.
I am using memory for this, but I feel pretty certain I am close.
Bruce Weber has coached 43 players that have played professionally.
hire him. we need that man.
Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
We may pass 1,000,000 views before the announcement! 20K in the last few hours.
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