If the team started passing, and moving without the ball, maybe Ayo would get the ball back with an open shot. Do we have a point guard?
Missouri 63, Illinois 56 POSTGAME
If the team started passing, and moving without the ball, maybe Ayo would get the ball back with an open shot. Do we have a point guard?
skyIdub
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Agreed...this is the reasonable take on DMW. He should be more aggressive offensively. He gives up on his drive too early and looks to pass when he has an advantage. I don't know if it's lack of confidence in his knee, or in his head....it's definitely frustrating....but he's not the black hole some on here make him out to be.
No, not anything. But some things. If you don't understand that it's hard for any of us to get through.
Hell, in his third year, Jason Kidd 2.0 threw up no points today.
I listened to his post game, my favorite part was he said Missouri made it personal, which helped them. In his presser before the game he said no it's not personal, just nameless faceless team... Well you should have made it personal IMO.
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His knee injury was 2 yrs ago. He is what he is offensively at this point imo. Feel like his efforts are better served coming off the bench and not taking away some minutes from players that can actually create offense(Griffin) instead of just passing it right back
um, that's an embarrassing take on things.
There's plenty of overreaction on the negative side when it comes to DMW. But maybe you could stop with the overreaction on the positive side. DMW had a bad game. IT wasn't just the missed layups. A few bad turnovers and a bad foul as the shot clock was winding down.
The guy hustles. But there's plenty missing to his game and it's hurting us. If you can't see that I'm sorry.
Agree with all this except possibly AG needing to start. I do think he needs to get more minutes, but with the make up of the team currently might be best for him to come off bench. But definitely needs more minutes.
I’m emotionally detached from the team now. (Maybe I should have never been emotionally ATTACHED but I’m a sports fan, I can’t help it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ )
I’ll still root for the team, but I know longer expect them to turn the corner and don’t have high hopes Brad Underwood will bring us back.
I did this with Lovie and football after the EMU loss. So maybe, just maybe, basketball will surprise like football did.
I’ll still root for the team, but I know longer expect them to turn the corner and don’t have high hopes Brad Underwood will bring us back.
I did this with Lovie and football after the EMU loss. So maybe, just maybe, basketball will surprise like football did.
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I’d like to see us try going small and have kipper in there for Georgi. If he’s not confident in hitting long jumpers there’s no point in having him in there consistently with Kofi
That is exactly how I feel, I let myself get sucked in to the modest expectations.
I am now in a wait and see/ prove it to me , state of mind.
USAFILLINI
- Florida
only problem with that is Kofi would never get the ball. Seems like Georgi is the only one who tries/can get it to him
AG ...had several open looks that didnt go down. It happens. Ayo drives were working and we should have played to what was working. KC missed probably 6 layups...it happens. We have young players....but unfortunately our coaching is not adjusting for best chance of winning. Regardless of "holes"..
...we have the better talent over Mizzou. If you are best on paper, and you cannot overcome normal player malfunctions and eek out a win ,...it means you were outcoached...either game prep, ...or in-game coaching or both.
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I see what you’re sayin, but without Georgi in there it might open up some space for our terrible passing guards to get it in to him. Imo it’s worth a try because these scoring droughts we go on can’t continue
Plenty of blame to go around in this turd of a performance. Giorgi with six turnovers, outrebounded, gave them way too many extra opportunities. Mizzou was VERY lucky to make desperation threes - give them credit though for being tougher and more aggressive. I'm surprised we weren't able to drive more when we got in the bonus with 13 minutes left. Griffin was aggressive but couldn't find the rim. Feliz had the worst game of the year. And yes, boys, gotta make the bunnies.
I am prepared to give Ayo the benefit of the doubt, and that he may grown into the position. But there is ample evidence to support this position. I can not remember one time this season when Ayo had the ball and made a great play in which I yelled out "Great pass."
We let them turn this game into a half court slugfest. Missouri struggles against the press and we wait until the 3 minute mark to press. Totally outcoached again. Missouri does not have more talent than we have.
Joel Goodson
- respect my decision™
Ugh! What a steamer! Very disappointing and that's an understatement. The lion's share of the blame is on the players. Didn't think our floor was that low. Ha! Flippin' abysmal. Back to the football threads.
For what its worth:
Record
Clownzo: 42-34
Underwood: 34-43
Puke!!!
Record
Clownzo: 42-34
Underwood: 34-43
Puke!!!
Ayo, is not the problem a certain poster alluded, too. He's been more efficient inside the arc this year than last and less efficient outside it. He has not played near as well as I hoped he would thus far, either. I think he tries to do to much at times, but i don't think he is a ball hog or hindering everyone elses performance. He like the rest of the team do not pass the ball well.
To say there is grumbling among the players concerning Ayo and his play is absolutely ridiculous when the poster has no knowledge whatsoever about this. Pure unneeded speculation.
I would also like to see TF get more shots. I'd put the ball in his hands morfrom the get go.
To say there is grumbling among the players concerning Ayo and his play is absolutely ridiculous when the poster has no knowledge whatsoever about this. Pure unneeded speculation.
I would also like to see TF get more shots. I'd put the ball in his hands morfrom the get go.
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Not laying blame but it seems like our guard play has digressed severely this year. New coach we got from Gonzaga got anything to do with this ? I thought he was supposed to be a guard whisperer.
The weave has got to go. We NEVER turn the corner in that. It might as well be a JG offense.
The weave has got to go. We NEVER turn the corner in that. It might as well be a JG offense.
USAFILLINI
- Florida
I agree with you, something has to change
I would love to know what this teams assist to turnover ratio is and specifically what Ayo’s is
IlliniRon
Illini Basketball Fan Forever
- Ft Worth, Texas
That was pretty tough to watch. Missouri made contact on almost every Illinois possession, some got called, some didn't and I didn't think most of our guys were ready for the level of contact they experienced, except Ayo. We also let them get a lot of put backs after missing their first shots. Plus the missed layups and dunks really catch up to you by the end of the game. The offensive output was embarrassing for the high powered Illini, and the defensive rebounding was lacking. Seems like Ayo was the main guard playing today with the others out of sync with the game. Much improvement needed for the BIG season where there will be similar amounts of contact on the road games.