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Old Feb 9, 2018, 02:42 PM   #1276
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Dictionary definition of blue blood: "membership in a noble or socially prominent family"

Short of something crazy happening, you don't lose blue blood status. Even then, August Busch IV has done some WILD s***. Doesn't mean the Busch family isn't royalty in St. Louis.

Indiana won the Big 10 in 2016. The uniforms, the tradition, the championships, the campus, the biggest sports team in the state, the legendary arena. That all ties into your status and Indiana has lost none of that.
Except for the consistent winning.

As one poster stated, blue blood, with the exception of Duke, is not tied to one coach. Indiana's success is largely tied to knight. Since he left, they have fallen. Another poster stated IU cannot swoop in and steal any recruit they want, heck even for in state talent. Nor can they automatically be in the picture for virtually any 5* player, like UNC, KU, UK and DU are able.

Blue Blood, wrt NCAA is a much different definition than your societal definition. IU has fallen from that lofty status. However, if Archie turns things around, they have the ability to regain it moreso than someone else has the ability to break into that elite status.

All of this is of course MHO.

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Old Feb 9, 2018, 03:29 PM   #1277
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Except for the consistent winning.

As one poster stated, blue blood, with the exception of Duke, is not tied to one coach. Indiana's success is largely tied to knight. Since he left, they have fallen. Another poster stated IU cannot swoop in and steal any recruit they want, heck even for in state talent. Nor can they automatically be in the picture for virtually any 5* player, like UNC, KU, UK and DU are able.

Blue Blood, wrt NCAA is a much different definition than your societal definition. IU has fallen from that lofty status. However, if Archie turns things around, they have the ability to regain it moreso than someone else has the ability to break into that elite status.

All of this is of course MHO.
I agree with the recruiting idea of the blue bloods that has been thrown out there, but it got me thinking about UNC because they don't seem to get the top 2-3 guys in classes as much. I checked the list of one and dones who have been drafted and it was no surprise that it went Kentucky (21), Duke (10), and Kansas/UCLA (8) at the top, but UNC has only had 2. They're behind powerhouses like GTech, LSU, UNLV and Washington.

Now, I'm obviously not saying they aren't blue bloods, because their results (historical and recent) speak for themselves, just interesting that they are going about it differently.

(This is any one and done who was drafted at any point in the draft)

Other schools with 5 or more are:
5 - Arizona, Washington
6- Ohio State, Texas
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Old Feb 9, 2018, 07:37 PM   #1278
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Highly-athletic 2018 wing. Mac Irvin Fire product. Chin Coleman was out to see him on Wednesday. Has physical tools that simply don't exist on the current roster.
https://twitter.com/DPiper247/status/962118085288357888

Blessed To Receive An Offer From The University Of Illinois
https://twitter.com/Dmjacobs_/status/962110498106884096
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Old Feb 9, 2018, 08:46 PM   #1279
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Highly-athletic 2018 wing. Mac Irvin Fire product. Chin Coleman was out to see him on Wednesday. Has physical tools that simply don't exist on the current roster.
https://twitter.com/DPiper247/status/962118085288357888

Blessed To Receive An Offer From The University Of Illinois
https://twitter.com/Dmjacobs_/status/962110498106884096
I donít even care if heís a guard or doesnít have much an offer list. He is a very good athlete and itís getting so old watching team after team out-athlete us.
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Old Feb 9, 2018, 08:57 PM   #1280
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Highly-athletic 2018 wing. Mac Irvin Fire product. Chin Coleman was out to see him on Wednesday. Has physical tools that simply don't exist on the current roster.
https://twitter.com/DPiper247/status/962118085288357888

Blessed To Receive An Offer From The University Of Illinois
https://twitter.com/Dmjacobs_/status/962110498106884096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxGPQLvRG-g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOuGXiK_0Co
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Old Feb 9, 2018, 09:32 PM   #1281
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This is where you tell the Irvin's to start paying back.
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Old Feb 9, 2018, 09:40 PM   #1282
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This is where you tell the Irvin's to start paying back.
By delivering the 330th ranked recruit in the country.
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Old Feb 9, 2018, 09:52 PM   #1283
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By delivering the 330th ranked recruit in the country.
Yup, if you get his '019 top 75 brother (The Show) to decommit from Kansas and join him in C/U. That's how these things work. Who was our last brother combination??
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Old Feb 9, 2018, 09:59 PM   #1284
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If offer is commitable I think he accepts. Mac Irvin player likely has played with Damonte and Ayo. Chin ties to MF looks like a strong connection. Just think we need bigs.
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Old Feb 9, 2018, 10:08 PM   #1285
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Highly-athletic 2018 wing. Mac Irvin Fire product. Chin Coleman was out to see him on Wednesday. Has physical tools that simply don't exist on the current roster.
https://twitter.com/DPiper247/status/962118085288357888

Blessed To Receive An Offer From The University Of Illinois
https://twitter.com/Dmjacobs_/status/962110498106884096
This means staff isn't feeling great about Jones.
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Old Feb 9, 2018, 10:10 PM   #1286
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This means staff isn't feeling great about Jones.
Or Ramey?
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Old Feb 9, 2018, 10:51 PM   #1287
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Yup, if you get his '019 top 75 brother (The Show) to decommit from Kansas and join him in C/U. That's how these things work. Who was our last brother combination??
brandon and darius paul?! brandon worked out great. Darius... not so much
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Old Feb 9, 2018, 11:17 PM   #1288
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Highly-athletic 2018 wing. Mac Irvin Fire product. Chin Coleman was out to see him on Wednesday. Has physical tools that simply don't exist on the current roster.
https://twitter.com/DPiper247/status/962118085288357888

Blessed To Receive An Offer From The University Of Illinois
https://twitter.com/Dmjacobs_/status/962110498106884096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxGPQLvRG-g

Take him if he wants to come...kid is very skilled and very athletic with a flair for something different when he seems to touch the ball.

Last kid that looked like this on a highlight film was Lovett imo!
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Old Feb 9, 2018, 11:22 PM   #1289
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brandon and darius paul?! brandon worked out great. Darius... not so much
Paul's were not together like the Jacobs' would be.
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Old Feb 9, 2018, 11:26 PM   #1290
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brandon and darius paul?! brandon worked out great. Darius... not so much
Darius was considered a taller more athletic Brandon, he was a great get at the time. Would have transformational had he stayed on track
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Old Feb 9, 2018, 11:46 PM   #1291
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Flying ILLINI make up of a team is on the way back imo.

BU reflects on those days in interviews, remembers the buzz around the program, and we for the most part had 6-3"-6-7" type of guys. Honestly believe we will have athletes on this team within 2 years top to bottom running up and down, pressure defense and rotating in a solid 9-10 players every game.
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Old Feb 10, 2018, 04:54 AM   #1292
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Demarius Jacobs has 2 CBs for the illini at least
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Old Feb 10, 2018, 07:32 AM   #1293
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Flying ILLINI make up of a team is on the way back imo.

BU reflects on those days in interviews, remembers the buzz around the program, and we for the most part had 6-3"-6-7" type of guys. Honestly believe we will have athletes on this team within 2 years top to bottom running up and down, pressure defense and rotating in a solid 9-10 players every game.
That team had two guys that would play for over ten years in the NBA, another nba player in Liberty who left early, and other guys like Battle and Bardo who could play above the rim. Frazier is the only kid on the roster now with anything resembling that type of talent.
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Old Feb 10, 2018, 07:36 AM   #1294
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This means staff isn't feeling great about Jones.


Maybe, but I think it says more about what he thinks about the players he has.

Iím betting on a 5 man class. Donít have a clue which players are leaving and itís not healthy to speculate. I think the lack of progress and Underwoodís comments post game signal an overhaul of the roster.

Not a coincidence offers went out immediately.


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Old Feb 10, 2018, 08:01 AM   #1295
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http://www.stltoday.com/sports/colle...f1b369d07.html

pretty sobering stats and defines our W-L record....

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Old Feb 10, 2018, 08:11 AM   #1296
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Liked the comparison of IU to ND football. IU may be off the blue blood list, but at this point our orange is diametrically opposed to blue on the color wheel. I have confidence that BU will make improvements, but the tide has clearly not turned yet.

Don't see much on the recruiting side to get me excited other than Ayo. Hopefully the tide comes in followed by a storm surge.
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Old Feb 10, 2018, 08:24 AM   #1297
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Don't see much on the recruiting side to get me excited other than Ayo. Hopefully the tide comes in followed by a storm surge.
This is the area of concern for me. I'm not worried about BU's ability to coach a team. Whitman would not have hired him had he not already proven himself in this area. But at some point you need players to buy in and commit to Illinois. So far Underwood hasn't been able to close the deal on his top recruits other than Ayo.

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Old Feb 10, 2018, 08:26 AM   #1298
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That team had two guys that would play for over ten years in the NBA, another nba player in Liberty who left early, and other guys like Battle and Bardo who could play above the rim. Frazier is the only kid on the roster now with anything resembling that type of talent.
I agree, that is why I said it is on the way back...I firmly believe BU will make his roster to mirror that type of size/athleticism and hopefully the talent will be up to the level he needs to get his system to winning games.
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Old Feb 10, 2018, 08:29 AM   #1299
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That team had two guys that would play for over ten years in the NBA, another nba player in Liberty who left early, and other guys like Battle and Bardo who could play above the rim. Frazier is the only kid on the roster now with anything resembling that type of talent.
You're exactly right. When I see people comparing the roster we have now to the '89 team that had all 6'6' and 6'7' guys to show that we can win with a smaller roster is utterly laughable. That team had numerous 5-star players and guys who knew how to win. Once we put four or five 5-star players on the floor who are 6-6 and 6-7, then I'll believe the comparison. I swear some people are delusional.
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Old Feb 10, 2018, 08:32 AM   #1300
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Demarius Jacobs has 2 CBs for the illini at least
Was not aware of the fact that Kentucky had offered this kid? That was a new read in the News Gazette?
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