North Carolina Academic Fraud Investigation

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This week 7 school teachers were sentenced with up to 7 years in prison for fraudulent standardized testing. If I was involved in that sort of nonsense at UNC, I'd be looking to cut a deal with someone and cover my rear.

I don't think the two are comparable in the sense that the school teachers were charged with criminal offenses, and serious ones at that - racketeering. The teachers in question also had a very long period to work with the prosecutor and were given an option to cut a deal early. They decided to raise the stakes and take it to trial, where they were found guilty.

The NCAA is a business with civil concerns (i.e. money). I'd read they already spent half a mil on PR around the case, and it would surprise me if they didn't settle this one. Most civil cases involve posturing, and rarely get resolved by going the distance. Right now, I have to believe that the main leverage is not the wrong-doing, but the damage they can do from dragging the institution through the mud. The longer it goes, the less leverage the athletes have, so somewhere along the way, I'd expect them to take the money and run, even if it's not much.

If there's also a criminal probe, I'd agree, but I've not heard anything of that, or rumblings that it's being investigated.

Bottom line, there's a long history of the NCAA ignoring, or giving lip service to these types of scandals, and for that reason I expect nothing to change.
 
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Brett McMurphy @McMurphyESPN
UNC will release NCAA’s Notice of Allegations today, source told @espn. UNC received NOA on May 22
 
#305      
Link to the document.

Here is a link the article chief9 posted above. For some reason, his link is broken.

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This quote from that linked article:

If you're wondering about the football and men's basketball programs, the News & Observer's Andrew Carter pointed out that in the 59-page report personnel from both programs are not specifically mentioned.

Although a search for the word "football" in said 59 page report found 33 hits...plus Roy Williams, a few assistants, and a few advisers for each program are specifically mentioned. That quote is pretty obviously BS.
 
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I think he's basing it on this quote from that linked article:



Although a search for the word "football" in said 59 page report found 33 hits...plus Roy Williams, a few assistants, and a few advisers for each program are specifically mentioned. That quote is pretty obviously BS.

Yeah, that reporter didn't do his homework. The term "men's basketball" shows up 27 times in the letter...and football as you mentioned.
 
#308      
So when will the NC trophy be arriving at Ubben?
 
#309      
There will be sanctions. How severe and when are the 2 questions.
 
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I assume that you know that it will slide into Champaign on the ice when hell freezes over :mad:

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#313      
It's about time to take Ol Roy off that lofty perch he occupies. Either he's a bold face liar or incredibly incompetent/uncaring about his players education. I'm leaning towards the former.
 
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2005 NCAA title team:
Jackie Manuel - AFAM degree
Sean May - AFAM degree
David Noel - AFAM degree
Melvin Scott - AFAM degree
Reyshawn Terry - AFAM degree
Quentin Thomas - AFAM degree
Jawad Williams - AFAM degree
Marvin Williams - No degree
Raymond Felton - No degree
Rashad McCants - No degree

you do the math.
 
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2005 NCAA title team:
Jackie Manuel - AFAM degree
Sean May - AFAM degree
David Noel - AFAM degree
Melvin Scott - AFAM degree
Reyshawn Terry - AFAM degree
Quentin Thomas - AFAM degree
Jawad Williams - AFAM degree
Marvin Williams - No degree
Raymond Felton - No degree
Rashad McCants - No degree

you do the math.


For real? :tsk:
 
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Ahh. African, African-American and Diaspora Studies. That table is pretty amazing then.
 
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2005 NCAA title team:
Jackie Manuel - AFAM degree
Sean May - AFAM degree
David Noel - AFAM degree
Melvin Scott - AFAM degree
Reyshawn Terry - AFAM degree
Quentin Thomas - AFAM degree
Jawad Williams - AFAM degree
Marvin Williams - No degree
Raymond Felton - No degree
Rashad McCants - No degree

you do the math.

Source?
 
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2005 NCAA title team:
Jackie Manuel - AFAM degree
Sean May - AFAM degree
David Noel - AFAM degree
Melvin Scott - AFAM degree
Reyshawn Terry - AFAM degree
Quentin Thomas - AFAM degree
Jawad Williams - AFAM degree
Marvin Williams - No degree
Raymond Felton - No degree
Rashad McCants - No degree

you do the math.

For real? :tsk:

My first thought too. If that's legit... sheesh.
 
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Wikipedia while not the most accurate source states that Sean Mays bachelors degree was indeed African American studies
 
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Nothing is going to happen to them...


I don't expect the NCAA to punish UNC properly. UNC's cheating cost other programs a lot of money. I would hope that politicians from states that were impacted would put some pressure on the NCAA to do the right thing.

While it's uncertain if we still would have won in 2005 without UNC in the mix, we were never given a fair shot at the title. Even the game wasn't officiated equally. It's a real shame as our team played great team basketball and really should be remembered by people other than Illinois fans. I hope the NCAA takes away the 2005 championship even though it wouldn't be given to our guys.
 
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