Bill Cubit gets 2-year deal as Illinois Head Football Coach

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Heard a lot of players are asking for Permission To Contact forms. :tape:

They should. The university and the athletic department have completely let them down.

If my son were an athlete, there is a 0% I would send him to Illinois.
 
#303      
I generally save my emotional attachment to basketball and simply try to enjoy football. But this decision makes no attempt at making this program better. Beyond disappointed.
 
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As in times past, i cannot reveal my resources. They are reliable. The resources have not been wrong to date. Sorry for the bad news.
 
#306      
Can anyone recommend a good site to compare stats for where Illinois ranks on Offense/Defense across the B1G and NCAA?


I want to see how we have progressed offensively under Bill Cubit. I feel pretty positive someone has already done the compilation though, so if you have that handy I'd take that as well. Thanks.
 
#308      
From a corporate view, the decision made by the administration makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately, we are dealing with human beings and not widgets. I kinda think that this goes all the way to the top. While you can say "we want to make the right decision", dragging all of these decision in and outside of the DIA, is only denigrating the University's stature nationally and the athletic dysfunction only serves to further spotlight the now academic issues. I truly hope that the plan is for BC to only be here one year because I think that we can survive it if the right hire is made then. Give BC his $1.6M (or whatever it is) and say thanks for the help, we've got it now. Enjoy your retirement. I unfortunately don't feel a firestorm of confidence about this whole dance. I hope that some strong, influential alums swoop in to bring some sanity and success to the DIA.
 
#309      
From a corporate view, the decision made by the administration makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately, we are dealing with human beings and not widgets. I kinda think that this goes all the way to the top. While you can say "we want to make the right decision", dragging all of these decision in and outside of the DIA, is only denigrating the University's stature nationally and the athletic dysfunction only serves to further spotlight the now academic issues. I truly hope that the plan is for BC to only be here one year because I think that we can survive it if the right hire is made then. Give BC his $1.6M (or whatever it is) and say thanks for the help, we've got it now. Enjoy your retirement. I unfortunately don't feel a firestorm of confidence about this whole dance. I hope that some strong, influential alums swoop in to bring some sanity and success to the DIA.

That's the best case scenario and I certainly hope that's how this mess plays out. Buys time, get our AD, let him hire his guy, give Cubit his parting gift.
 
#310      
Permission To Contact?????

Can you clarify what this? I presume this gives the student athlete the right to explore transfer options?

With some luck, hopefully the ones looking to leave are the MAC level players buried in the roster. Then again, just about all of them are MAC level.
 
#312      
I hope that some strong, influential alums swoop in to bring some sanity and success to the DIA.

Questions here are 1) are the influential alums united in their views and 2) are they being empowered by someone to take charge?

When it appears no one is at the wheel of UI as a whole given the administration mess, it will remain difficult to get a decision process that keeps pace with the rest of the college athletics landscape.
 
#313      
The BOT meets every other month, and usually things need to get on the agenda a week or two in advance. Looks like the next meeting is January 21, 2016 in Chicago, my guess is approval would be at that meeting.

"so you're telling me there's a chance...." :D

I am placing all my hope in the "Trial Balloon" theory....
 
#315      
This encapsulates my thinking:

http://herald-review.com/blogs/mark...cle_c4205020-9641-11e5-a89e-af6f9a117b80.html

One line in particular caught my attention and that being the ability of a new AD to name his own coach. Perhaps ask this question: "What top AD would want to come here if he were faced with a new 5 year contract for someone he doesn't want as HC?" That could be Cubit, Miles or any of the other candidates bandied about.

Sure, now ask this question: "What decent recruit wants to commit to a school that won't even commit to their head coach?".

It's a disaster no matter how you spin it.
 
#316      
Love how some are twisting this as some sort of plan of Illinois' athletic department with some thought behind it. No, exactly the opposite. We're here because of unheard incompetence. The article points out 2 year contracts are unheard of in college football. Stop trying to defend that and realize there are very good reasons they're unheard of. Do you really, really think Illinois is the smartest poker player in the room? What could possibly give you that idea? Stop justifying incompetence or we will forever be similar positions.
 
#318      
Perhaps ask this question: "What top AD would want to come here if he were faced with a new 5 year contract for someone he doesn't want as HC?" That could be Cubit, Miles or any of the other candidates bandied about.

There are two people that should have the Illinois AD job right now. Rick George should have been the hire back in 2011, and failing that, Mike Hogan should have followed his search committee's recommendation and hired Mike Bobinski, then of Xavier, now of Georgia Tech.

Rick George was hired just seven months after Mike MacIntyre was hired as Colorado's football coach, before MacIntyre had coached a single game. MacIntyre is 10-27 and 2-25 in the Pac 12, and George is standing steadfastly behind him and has publicly committed to another season for him.

Mike Bobinski was hired at Georgia Tech in the middle of Brian Gregory's second season at Georgia Tech. In four years at the helm, Gregory is 56-71, 19-51 in the ACC, has never finished higher than 9th in the conference, or made ANY postseason tournament, not just the NCAA's. Bobinski has stood steadfastly by him.

The point is, this idea that any AD must have their own coaches and will use any possible excuse to fire someone in order to install "their guy" is a wild exaggeration with no basis in reality. What Mike Thomas did was a vanishingly rare exception, it is not anything close to the rule. Virtually 100% of AD's are hired to work with existing revenue sport coaches.
 
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There are two people that should have the Illinois AD job right now. Rick George should have been the hire back in 2011, and failing that, Mike Hogan should have followed his search committee's recommendation and hired Mike Bobinski, then of Xavier, now of Georgia Tech.

Rick George was hired just seven months after Mike MacIntyre was hired as Colorado's football coach, before MacIntyre had coached a single game. MacIntyre is 10-27 and 2-25 in the Pac 12, and George is standing steadfastly behind him and has publicly committed to another season for him.

Mike Bobinski was hired at Georgia Tech in the middle of Brian Gregory's second season at Georgia Tech. In four years at the helm, Gregory is 56-71, 19-51 in the ACC, has never finished higher than 9th in the conference, or made ANY postseason tournament, not just the NCAA's. Bobinski has stood steadfastly by him.

The point is, this idea that any AD must have their own coaches and will use any possible excuse to fire someone in order to install "their guy" is a wild exaggeration with no basis in reality. What Mike Thomas did was a vanishingly rare exception, it is not anything close to the rule. Virtually 100% of AD's are hired to work with existing revenue sport coaches.

Why should we be clamoring for either of those guys to be the Illinois AD if they continue to "steadfastly stand behind" such mediocrity? Sounds like dodged bullets.
 
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You are correct. The permission to speak gives the student athlete the right to explore transfer options. It does not mean that they are actually transferring.
Unfortunately one of them is a 4 star. :( We only have 3 of those.
 
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There are two people that should have the Illinois AD job right now. Rick George should have been the hire back in 2011, and failing that, Mike Hogan should have followed his search committee's recommendation and hired Mike Bobinski, then of Xavier, now of Georgia Tech.

Rick George was hired just seven months after Mike MacIntyre was hired as Colorado's football coach, before MacIntyre had coached a single game. MacIntyre is 10-27 and 2-25 in the Pac 12, and George is standing steadfastly behind him and has publicly committed to another season for him.

Mike Bobinski was hired at Georgia Tech in the middle of Brian Gregory's second season at Georgia Tech. In four years at the helm, Gregory is 56-71, 19-51 in the ACC, has never finished higher than 9th in the conference, or made ANY postseason tournament, not just the NCAA's. Bobinski has stood steadfastly by him.

The point is, this idea that any AD must have their own coaches and will use any possible excuse to fire someone in order to install "their guy" is a wild exaggeration with no basis in reality. What Mike Thomas did was a vanishingly rare exception, it is not anything close to the rule. Virtually 100% of AD's are hired to work with existing revenue sport coaches.

Keeps his seat cool. "He's not my guy!"
 
#323      
You are correct. The permission to speak gives the student athlete the right to explore transfer options. It does not mean that they are actually transferring.
Unfortunately one of them is a 4 star. :( We only have 3 of those.

I count Vaughn and Megginson, who am I missing as #3? And i'd guess it's Megginson because Vaughn should be the undisputed starter, unless their is some hidden issues between him and the coaching staff.
 
#324      
You are correct. The permission to speak gives the student athlete the right to explore transfer options. It does not mean that they are actually transferring.
Unfortunately one of them is a 4 star. :( We only have 3 of those.

Spoke to one of the parents at the tailgate and she was so frustrated about the Cubit hiring. Also, she was saying that the injured players were not even invited to the team dinner the night before the NW game and its been like that all season long.
 
#325      
There are two people that should have the Illinois AD job right now. Rick George should have been the hire back in 2011, and failing that, Mike Hogan should have followed his search committee's recommendation and hired Mike Bobinski, then of Xavier, now of Georgia Tech.

Rick George was hired just seven months after Mike MacIntyre was hired as Colorado's football coach, before MacIntyre had coached a single game. MacIntyre is 10-27 and 2-25 in the Pac 12, and George is standing steadfastly behind him and has publicly committed to another season for him.

Mike Bobinski was hired at Georgia Tech in the middle of Brian Gregory's second season at Georgia Tech. In four years at the helm, Gregory is 56-71, 19-51 in the ACC, has never finished higher than 9th in the conference, or made ANY postseason tournament, not just the NCAA's. Bobinski has stood steadfastly by him.

The point is, this idea that any AD must have their own coaches and will use any possible excuse to fire someone in order to install "their guy" is a wild exaggeration with no basis in reality. What Mike Thomas did was a vanishingly rare exception, it is not anything close to the rule. Virtually 100% of AD's are hired to work with existing revenue sport coaches.
Preach it!
 
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