I was in ACES during my time on campus and lots of kids who has no interest in an ACES major would apply to that college and use it as a vector to transfer into another college after freshman year since ACES had less competition and more lax admission standards. I had freshman classes with lots of kids who didn't even know what ACES stood for. It's a common practice even for non-athletes
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BananaShampoo
Captain 'Paign
- Phoenix, AZ
Yep. Same as when I was in school in the late 90's.
I hope not, if getting into CoB is hard, then get in when you can, take 13 hours if needed, but don't yourself into a difficult spot.
LincolnIlliniFan
- Lincoln, IL
Whitman needs to make this happen, no ifs ands or buts. No reason for that to why a student should transfer.
Another out of control rumor that was started by someone with anti Groce sentiments.
Another out of control rumor that was started by someone with anti Groce sentiments.
I am not defending the rumor because it may be totally unfounded, but I do have to defend the source. No anti-groce sentiments from them, just someone who is absolutely in the know.
I'm not crazy about the no staff changes bit.
The only statement about staff changes is "None" at this point. It is all you can say till after the season is over. When the season is over, all will have performance interviews with JG.
In essence, nobody knows if there will be changes or not.
IlliniDent
- Chicago, IL
Exactly. Do people really think that before the season officially ends we are going to say we are getting rid of staff?
I'd be surprised if Dee isn't an asst coach next season. To not hire arguably the most popular Illini player ever for that role would be a foolish decision. TIFWIW.
Hands Malone
- Quad-Cities, IL
If whoever it is has over a 3.0 GPA, there is a good chance they would get in since they are already a student at Illinois. And you're right, GPA is a factor. I'm sure prior to any student athlete's enrollment, guidelines for following their personal academic goals were set up to meet their final goal.
IlliniDent
- Chicago, IL
Do you think he would improve the coaching side of the game? I think he would be a great recruiter but what about the basketball side?
lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
In 1998, Lon Krueger went 13-3 in the B1G. The very next year, he went 3-13. Same coach. Different players.
I have a feeling JG's coaching will look miraculously better when we have better players.
I like this post.
Foggy Notion
- San Francisco
Steve Kerr likes to joke that Steph Curry's play is a result of his great coaching.
Yup. Kruger is an excellent coach, but 3-13 happens when you have to play Sergio McLain at PG. W/o competent PG play, it's tough to win many games. And it's hard to to look pretty offensively.
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Link to AD Josh Whitman's March 5th press conference-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etcXGGjyiAs
Link to AD Josh Whitman's March 5th press conference-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etcXGGjyiAs
IlliniDent
- Chicago, IL
I meant Dee. Would he be able to add a coaching element or at this point would be far more likely be recruiting?
Unfortunately for that argument, that turnaround also miraculously coincided with the addition of not 1, but 3 McD AAs, we are talking 3 legitimate 5* players, Frank Williams, Marcus Griffin, Brian Cook. So it is not just "better" players, we are talking phenomenal addition of talent way beyond our current level of talent additions.
lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
I think you may have missed my point. My point is: the same coach who went 13-3 one year, went 3-13 the very next year. He didn't forget how to coach. He just didn't have as good of players.
So the players make a bigger impact than the coach.
I'm definitely not arguing that we're going to be 04-05 good any time soon.
I do not think anyone disagrees that getting better player will improve the team. That is profound. But the example that you give as supporting evidence is a really poor one. That is an example of extreme addition of talent, with 3 McD AAs, 5* players, two of them with their jersey's hanging from the rafters, could have been all three if not for Marcus' injury.
The situation that we are facing is really much different. Nowhere close to these additions next year. If we were adding 3 McD AAs, sure, I agree that coaching does not matter as much. And I have stated over and over again that IMO talent has more impact. But is the talent we have coming in next year enough? I do not disagree with your point, just the supporting example. You have Kruger w/3 McD AAs vs. Groce w/some additions but nowhere in the same level. Kruger is definitely a very good coach as well, not just anyone who would not have a very positive coaching impact.
Huh? He mentioned Kruger went 13-3, then 3-13. That drop-off was because he lost 5 seniors that won the Big Ten. None of those seniors were 5* guys or Burger Boys. Hester and Gee were the only highly touted ones and they were in the 4* range.
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