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Big W for the Fightin' Cuonzo's last night at USC.

I only watched the first half, but their style is instantly recognizable as Keady/Weber/Painter ball. For better or worse.
 
#28      
...and before this loss to UNC, Lunardi had N.C. State as the 5th team out of the tourney.

At this point, the Illini only have one win against a Lunardi projected tourney team and that is VCU and VCU was his last team in. So Illinois' record against projected tourney teams is now 1-4. Where are the other "good wins" going to come from?

Not sure I put as much faith in Lunardi as you do, but the bracket matrix shows both NC St and VCU as tournament teams. And "projected tournament teams" is not the criteria for a "good win" anyway.

No doubt that Illinois needs to get more of them and they have plenty of chances left this season. 8 games left against current RPI top 50 teams.
 
#29      
Big W for the Fightin' Cuonzo's last night at USC.

I only watched the first half, but their style is instantly recognizable as Keady/Weber/Painter ball. For better or worse.

So essentially he's a better recruiting, less whiny, less bus-throwy version of Weber? If he can coach like Weber but without all the other flaws, sign me up! :thumb:

Caveat: I'd still take a Marshall or Jacobson over him, though, in a heartbeat.
 
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I personally think Minnesota is the 3rd best team in the Big ten, behind Wisconsin and Purdue.
Tough to say right now. It could be Indiana if they can get some consistency. Maryland has been improving and showed us just how much better they are than us. Then again, MSU is going to MSu and get progressively better as the season goes along, so they might be Top 3 by the end of the season, because Izzo.
 
#32      
Not sure I put as much faith in Lunardi as you do, but the bracket matrix shows both NC St and VCU as tournament teams. And "projected tournament teams" is not the criteria for a "good win" anyway.

No doubt that Illinois needs to get more of them and they have plenty of chances left this season. 8 games left against current RPI top 50 teams.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Updated: January 5, 2017 | Autobid awarded to league champion or highest seed remaining

Still not seeing NC St. in the brackets. Where are they seeded? UNC, UNC Wilmington, South Carolina, North Dakota St. are all projected in.

The site shows:

Last Four In
Rhode Island
TCU
Illinois
VCU


First Four Out
Texas Tech
Houston
Marquette
Middle Tennessee

Next Four Out
NC State
Kansas State
Ohio State
Nebraska

So NC State shows up as the 5th team out.

At this point in the season, I put more stock into the bracket projections than the RPI. Some of the RPI numbers still seem way out of whack.

The committee also looks at which teams teams you've beaten that are in. Chances for some "good" wins against a few sub-50 RPI teams that get squeezed out by conference autobids, but not that many. By the way, Winthrop has also fallen out.
 
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I can hardly believe what they've done. They're the most improved team in the nation by a country mile, and it's with mostly the same guys. I guess that still leaves me a little dubious, but they have legit wins, seeing is believing

Agreed, they were only a step in front of Rutgers last year. Amazing.
 
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http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Updated: January 5, 2017 | Autobid awarded to league champion or highest seed remaining

Still not seeing NC St. in the brackets. Where are they seeded? UNC, UNC Wilmington, South Carolina, North Dakota St. are all projected in.

Not sure I put as much faith in Lunardi as you do, but the bracket matrix shows both NC St and VCU as tournament teams. And "projected tournament teams" is not the criteria for a "good win" anyway.

Sorry, I guess I assumed you knew what the bracket matrix was and how to find it:

NC St is a consensus 10 seed.

Take the orange pill
 
#35      
I can hardly believe what they've done. They're the most improved team in the nation by a country mile, and it's with mostly the same guys. I guess that still leaves me a little dubious, but they have legit wins, seeing is believing

Reggie Lynch and Eric Curry are adding 12 rebounds and 4 blocks per game that they didn't have last year. I don't think you can understate how those guys are helping this year, when you consider that is in addition to what Murphy provides. Those stats turn into point differential and the impact of defense cannot be overstated either.
 
#37      
Reggie Lynch and Eric Curry are adding 12 rebounds and 4 blocks per game that they didn't have last year. I don't think you can understate how those guys are helping this year, when you consider that is in addition to what Murphy provides. Those stats turn into point differential and the impact of defense cannot be overstated either.

Lynch is an NBA player. This team has 3-4 guys that will play at the next level.
 
#38      
So essentially he's a better recruiting, less whiny, less bus-throwy version of Weber? If he can coach like Weber but without all the other flaws, sign me up! :thumb:

Caveat: I'd still take a Marshall or Jacobson over him, though, in a heartbeat.

I miss the Weber defense. I don't miss the Weber offense. I do miss the Weber comments about Indiana sucking.
 
#39      
I miss the Weber defense. I don't miss the Weber offense. I do miss the Weber comments about Indiana sucking.

That Weber offense is doing pretty damn well at KSU this year.
 
#40      
That Weber offense is doing pretty damn well at KSU this year.

My best memory of Bruce Weber is not an Illini one. He was doing a motion offense drills and breakdowns presentation at a coaches clinic I was attending. First words, "Why do I like motion offense? It's f*!n basketball."

Nope Bruce. Can't see why you'd have trouble recruiting.
 
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