Never seen a team execute so poorly. Simple things like boxing out. Boxing out on free throws. They couldn't grab a rebound when happ was shooting free throws. Lucas still taking the ball out and no one understands why. Morgan fouling happ on the shot at the end. Foul him hard dude. Mav is so soft with the ball. Won't dunk it. This team is horrible to watch. I'm not sure how much of this falls on groce. There is 0 intensity from the players. No emotion at all. Seems like they don't care.
Wisconsin 57, Illinois 43 POSTGAME
Yeah, Wisconsin was very beatable tonight and we needed a lot more from Hill if we were going to pull off the upset.
I thought about buying tickets to see the Northwestern game next Tuesday but I fear that Northwestern will run us off the court. It would've been fun but not with the way these guys are playing and being coached. Just can't do it...
FinalFour88
- Charlotte, NC
LMFAO. 8-10 would be a miracle. I'm thinking 6-12 best case scenario.
He recruited them, if he can't coach them up, then yes, he is to blame b/c he is the coach making the millions. Taking poor shots and settling for 3's too often is not a sign of a well coached team.
BlindLoyalty
- FartNoiseMotivation
50 B10 losses in 4.5 years for John Groce.
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They're all accountable. Poor game management + subpar talent = 4 years of terrible basketball
May be time to re-evaluate the value you've assigned to the parts.
Poor guy deserves a better senior send-off than this, that's for danged sure.
Mav may have his deficiencies but he's come a long way since he started. He is not the problem with this team. One of the few bright spots. Cut him some slack. He is not a physical player, he is a finesse guy.
More to come...
FinalFour88
- Charlotte, NC
The coaches aren't giving the players a legitimate chance to succeed. Players at this level need guidance. Groce is just rolling the ball out there and hoping the players make something happen on their own.
illini80
- Forgottonia
Wisconsin is well coached and looked confident. We on the other hand, not so much. Yes we couldn't hit shots. There is a reason for that. They play defense and make you rush your shots. We don't play defense. We roll the ball up the court to save a few seconds, because that's how you win games.
GortTheRobot
- North Bethesda, Maryland
I did say best. I am not suggesting that it's likely.
Likely a question we can assess next year under new leadership.
Actually we had some pretty good shots, but just couldn't hit them. In basketball, offense comes & goes. ( Generally speaking, I think our offensive sets are bad, but we seemed like we had several open looks tonight.) All that said, a team needs to play well defensively (the old saying, defense travels).
Defense includes positioning, blocking out, etc, & we don't appear to have been taught defensive fundamentals, at all.
Glad Wisky went cold 2nd half and kept it below 20. Very frustrating.
RedRocksIllini
- Morrison, CO
Doing it with 18:30 to play in the second half...classic. I don't want to hear anymore of this "Groce doesn't make 2nd half adjustments" nonsense.
We are still making arguments this team has upper level B1G talent? I think the coaching stinks too but I don't think the talent you speak of is present either.
Schedule gets pretty easy from here out. But yeah, that seems about right.
illini80
- Forgottonia
And as far as playing hard? Yes, sometimes. Who got nearly every rebound and every loose ball the last 8 minutes of the game. Hint: they wore red.
Listen, I didn't expect to win. But I expected a better effort. From the coaches and players. Wisconsin hit how many free throws? I think if you aren't sending a poor free throw shooting team to the line, you aren't playing hard enough.
Listen, I didn't expect to win. But I expected a better effort. From the coaches and players. Wisconsin hit how many free throws? I think if you aren't sending a poor free throw shooting team to the line, you aren't playing hard enough.
At least the clock does not start!:hand:
Let's say for a minute, it's all the players fault. Who's responsible for fixing that?
To date Groce has proven to be incapable of recruiting the caliber of talent he needs to WIN Big Ten games. After 4.5 season, I think its fair to call his tenure a failure.