Wisconsin 57, Illinois 43 POSTGAME
If you said we'd hold Wisky to 57 pts, I'd take that. The offense was not in sync at all tonight. Poor shot execution and settling for too many 3's. Wisky certainly made Te'Jon look like a frosh tonight but that's how it goes when you learn on the job. You won't always do well. The effort was there, the execution was awful. They've played much worse(every road game)
Pretty easy? We are the easy team on every other team's schedule.
You guys are blinded by the false narrative that Groce is to blame for everything. he's not. The guys competed. They played hard. The offense just wasn't there. They missed 20 open shots. They got out played by a better team. Better shooters, better rebounders, better players. A few more shots go in, a few more rebounds go our way, and it's a close game. Against the number 10 team in the country. The mentality now is that even when we lose to far better teams, it's Groce's fault and he should be fired. So Illinois.
MrOizo
- Chicago
How many do you think Groce will have by the end of next year?
You're right. Every team that looks on the upcoming schedule & sees us, thinks there is a great chance for a victory.
JCL is a shadow of the player he was. It's amazing how limited he is. I'm not sure he'd be a major contributor on the ISU Redbirds.
MrOizo
- Chicago
Jon... Cmon Jon, you got better things to do right about now.
This is a joke, right?
Holy crap! You might want to sit out a few threads. Yeesh.
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Players didn't hit shots tonight but if you notice we hardly ever get easy or make able shots at the rim. Wisconsin uses the backboard we don't plus they play above the rim. This team is not as talented as it should be. Our players don't have any game except jump shooting. Malcolm is the only one who does and he is not athletic enough to shake lose or create off of double teams. I think it's lack of talent and coaching. Our offense does not get us open looks. And this teams defense stinks. I think Groce has to go. I wanted him to succeed because I don't want to start over and lose this class.
I decided to run some numbers on PPG for Malcolm. His season average is 17.2. Non-conference is 18.4, conference is 15.6. Average over last five games is 13.6.
We need him to buck the trend and hit some shots. Guy's our best player, and his team needs him in a bad way. Hopefully he's got another senior gear that he hasn't found yet.
We need him to buck the trend and hit some shots. Guy's our best player, and his team needs him in a bad way. Hopefully he's got another senior gear that he hasn't found yet.
Can't spin out of this one. All but Abrams are his players. Either not enough coaching or not enough recruiting, either way it's on the coach
Maybe not, but he'll be held accountable. Missing the tournament 4 straight seasons is not acceptable.
He runs an offense that relies on 2 point jump shots.
Beckman?
You mean "goodness gracious"?
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It's simple, when your w2 has 2 commas in the wage box you get all the blame or all the credit. No excuses at this level.
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MadtownIllin
- Madison, WI
So, you're saying that if we would only have scored more points than them, we might have won?
What team have you been watching all year?:huh:
Well when it's 4 years of the same ole results and now that we are the bottom dweller of the BIG TEN, how is this not Groce's fault? This is clearly a broken record player with our constant tune of being a loser. 26-10 to start out the game? I wouldn't exactly say we competed.
Same number as he'll have at the end of this year.
We scored ~0.7 PPP, stop taking so many bleeping jumpers (he said for the fourth danged year in a row). We lost by 14 to Wisconsin on a night they played poorly, with the lead never less than 6.
At this point I'm assuming that he's just trying to get a rise out of people.
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I was at the game we hardly took any shots in the lane. There were very few real open looks. What 3 or 4 they had were missed. They got out hustled for rebounds that last possession of the 1st half was sickening 4 straight offensive rebounds for Wisconsin! Our offense doesn't work for this team. Leron Black has not been coached up to have a back to basket game. I can go on and on about players on this team being under coached and utilized. Why didn't he play Thorne or DJ? Thorne can sometimes make shots at the rim. DJ is athletic enough to stay with Haap? I know Thorne hasn't been that great but what would it have hurt we scored 43 pts!!!!!
Only 2 stats favored us: TO, us: 10, them: 12; FT/FTA, us: 6/9, them: 2/9.
http://www.fightingillini.com/documents/2017/1/31/GM23_Illinois_Wisconsin_Box.pdf
http://www.fightingillini.com/documents/2017/1/31/GM23_Illinois_Wisconsin_Box.pdf
No shame finishing behind Wisky in recruiting? There's a lot of shame in that actually because before 20 years ago, they were the Northwestern of the B10. This comment shows how apathetic some of the fanbase has gotten. For shame. Hold your team to a higher standard. Illinois was once a proud basketball program. We have been relegated to praising the team for moral victories? That's for the Penn St's of the world.
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Adnarel, you were asking in the game thread if there were any Groce supporters left on this board........well, looks like we found the Lone Survivor