Nah, the Kaminsky and Happ types weren't really top recruits out of HS. Wisco develops talent, we waste it.
Wisconsin 57, Illinois 43 POSTGAME
Nah, the Kaminsky and Happ types weren't really top recruits out of HS. Wisco develops talent, we waste it.
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I don't know what game you were watching but we certainly didn't have to many open n looks. I was in section 110 and practically everything was contested. What open looks we had were long jump shots. Not high % looks. JCL kept having to dribble around picks to get a shot up. That is not high %. Catching in rhythm and shooting is high%.
RedRocksIllini
- Morrison, CO
You really should get some sleep, Coach. Big day tomorrow...another ladder to put sheets of paper on.
8-10?? Whatever.....
Nobody wants to say it but I will.
These players being coached by this staff will not win another game this year.
Goodbye Groce :thumb:
This team is full of top 100 recruits including a couple who are riding the pines these days. None are being developed well enough with the exception of 1-2 guys. All falls on the coach or are the players supposed to develop themselves? The team is a couple of possessions from making it a game? How many times do we hear that with Groce's teams? It has become a broken record. Stop minimizing what is going on to just missed shots.
illini80
- Forgottonia
#1 I didn't blame Groce. But if you want to COMPETE in the B10, you win your home games. We got hammered. At home. We did not compete.
#2 So the Penn State loss is ok to blame Groce for then?
#3 The vast majority of missed shots were pressured. They were defended. That makes players miss. We have not defended all year and that is why we are losing more than we are winning. If we don't shoot well, we have no chance. Against anyone.
So what is your plan to win games? It's not the coaches fault. I'm sure you won't want to blame the players. They're playing hard, right? How about we blame the fans for not supporting them enough? That should fix it.
Couple threes? New math?
Alternative math
You're playing against the number 6 team defensively on KenPom, and we've been a cold jump shooting team. You need a better game plan than simply hoping this is the game that the jumpers all go in. If you can't recognize this is exactly what we've been seeing all year and UW just played a poor offensive game, then I don't know what to tell you. They had way better looks than we did.
IF we score 2 PPP every game, we could go undefeated!
That's a big IF for this team. We've been a bad offensive team. 43% from the field in conference play is BAD. 48% from 2PT isn't particularly good either. And our defense/rebounding has not consistently bridged the gap, as was again the case tonight. There was nothing drastically different tonight from any of our other losses.
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My last post was pretty much the same.....we have a great basketball team....that can't make baskets....any ideas....it is weird.....
Everybody knows why we keep losing games the way that we do. It's just Groce is the one who is supposed to fix it and that isn't happening. Help them get better shots. Train them to focus on boxing their man out, to rotate on defense, etc.
Maybe it because we've lost 60% of our conference games the last 4.5 years that I can't see the forest for the trees? Break it down for me in the simplest possible terms. How is Groce going to turn this around?
illynifan34
That's a winner!!
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Who is responsible for acquiring this talent we lack?
illini80
- Forgottonia
You haven't heard me once say fire Groce. And you refuse to acknowledge that the coach plays any part in how a team plays. We have played exactly 1 top 10 team this year, so stop making that the excuse for bad basketball most of this season. You have given no analysis of the game except we missed shots, so stop with the break down the game advice and give us some insight.
If this game were an isolated incident you'd sure have a good point
illynifan34
That's a winner!!
- OH
Last I checked it doesn't contain one guy that is a prorgan changer and this program needs changing.
You're right, my god we shot 60% from the three point line and 60% from the floor at home against Michigan. We should just keep chucking jumpers when we play at home. 60% of the time it works every time.
Also, even before this atrocity we were under 50% from the floor at home in conference.
Again, what signs are there that this is a well coached team?
In conference play? Not even close. 37.5% against Maryland, 43% against OSU, 45% against Iowa, 64% against Michigan, and 27.6% against Wisconsin. Certainly our reliance on the jump shot under Groce and our abundance of 5+ minute scoring droughts under Groce are not related, just faults of the players for hitting low percentage shots.
Check your facts. :hand:
He's not from Chicago. :doh: Also, there's very low odds he's a one and done unless he has a really, really good freshman year, so 2 or 3 years seems far more likely than 1 or 2.
peace davids
- Colorado
This has to happen consistently for it to truly matter. Unfortunately for him, his first great class has probably come too late to continue to build on.
illynifan34
That's a winner!!
- OH
He can't carry a team and isn't going to be an instant impact guy and he can't play the 40 minutes we need at the 5 next year.
Lol, I think you just outed yourself
If we're going to talk individual talent, 4 other teams in conference have higher rated (on average) classes than ours. We're being lifted up in a big way by Tilmon.
