2017 Coaching Carousel

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I agree with the tourney comments. That said, his Cal team was pre-season #14, yet they spent most of the season unranked (slipped in at #23 in the final poll). How many teams had a starting 5 with more talent than Cal last year? Perhaps I am overstating it, but that lineup looks like top 5 material, certainly not one you would expect to spend most of the season unranked.
Cal was a 4 seed in the Tourney, correct? That's a pretty solid year with a talented yet mostly very young team. And then his season was torpedoed by the injuries to Wallace and Bird. They had little chance of success in the Tourney after that.
 
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Musselman and Jeff Capel are two I don't want to drop off the radar in here.

They're still pinging on my radar, but I'm also of the conviction of being far more interested in Musselman as a candidate pending a great 3rd season than I am right now. Capel's faded for me a little bit, he really did not do a whole lot while running the show at Duke. I agree he'll get another gig, but Keatts and Archie hold firm at the top of my list, and I don't see a reason we'd have to go past Keatts.
 
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Serious Late

Peoria via Denver via Ann Arbor via Albuquerque vi
Cal was a 4 seed in the Tourney, correct? That's a pretty solid year with a talented yet mostly very young team. And then his season was torpedoed by the injuries to Wallace and Bird. They had little chance of success in the Tourney after that.
They were a 4 seed. Wallace, Bird and Matthews were all upperclassmen and one of their young Freshmen was a top 5 draft pick. 11 losses is concerning to me with that level of talent.
 
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Illi0105

Chicago, IL
2) Larry Krystkowiak: We can't really think that Utah is a destination job, right? Interesting program, certainly has had its moments, but no way a quality Illinois AD with a respectable budget can't convince the coach at Utah to change jobs. Krystkowiak, in his first year took over a program that just moved to the Pac-12 and finished with a Kenpom rating of 303. In his second year, they jumped to #115. His last 3 years, Krystkowiak has averaged a 27 in the Kenpom ratings. If that isn't impressive, not sure what is. The only counterpoint I am aware of is his lack of recruiting in the Midwest. Personally, I would make a strong push for him regardless of that drawback.

Didn't know much about him so I took a quick look. Looks like Utah had 5 players transfer off the team before this season and 3 players transfer two years before that. Seems like a lot of roster turnover. Anyone who follows Utah/Pac-12 basketball closer know why?
 
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They were a 4 seed. Wallace, Bird and Matthews were all upperclassmen and one of their young Freshmen was a top 5 draft pick. 11 losses is concerning to me with that level of talent.
They were a 4 seed! Isn't that pretty damn good? Wallace was hurt and didn't play. Same goes for Bird, I guess. And Bird was very raw as a frosh. What am I missing? They weren't expected to compete for a nat'l title or anything.
 
#4,007      

Serious Late

Peoria via Denver via Ann Arbor via Albuquerque vi
They were a 4 seed! Isn't that pretty damn good? Wallace was hurt and didn't play. Same goes for Bird, I guess. And Bird was very raw as a frosh. What am I missing? They weren't expected to compete for a nat'l title or anything.
I believe their talent level was above that of a 4 seed. I sincerely doubt there were 5 teams in all of college basketball with a more talented starting 5 than Cal had last year. They had MUCH more talent than SDSU, Richmond, Oregon St. and Colorado, all teams they lost to last year.

Martin is an upgrade over Groce. Martin is not in my top 5 reasonable candidates for the Illinois job.
 
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Keats is growing on my a lot in this search, I think it will be either him or Cuanzo. The one thing I am worried about and a little skeptical of is, should there be any concern that he is doing this at an even more mid-mid major? It just seems like a big jump from UNCW to Illinois.
 
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4 was an overseed for that Cal team too. They were more of a 5/6.

I need them to be a relatively comfortable tourney team this year to be interested in Cuonzo. Which should happen.
 
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The Keatts train is very Snowpiercer-esque, IMO

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Bold statement! I'm not so sure about that. He's recruiting an area he knows well, so it's not surprising that he's trying to land Smith for his current program.

It's not a particularly bold statement. I'm not excited about it but there is some smoke coming from out west right now. A mere brush fire right now but there's something behind it..
 
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Trent Frazier reaffirmed his commitment to the Illini on Twitter. He's fine. Tilmon is a wild-card. He loves Walker, so Groce's inevitable departure won't matter but Walker's might.

Smith really likes the U of I, so I wouldn't dismiss him until the new coach has a chance to talk to him.


Trent said John Groce is his guy and he better be there when he gets there and then he was bombarded with tweets from angry illini fans and backed off the statement. Do you expect him to draw a line in the sand on twitter and definitively announce it?

I'd be really surprised if he comes here if Groce isn't here. But maybe he loves the campus enough to play several hundreds miles away for a coach he didn't commit to.
 
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Lol, this is as good as it gets.

I don't particularly care if you believe me but some out there thinking you'd be getting a coaching upgrade (albeit IMO not a great one) with recruiting ties that could save most of the class and recruit at a high level to Illinois.

I think he's another version of Romar. But ultimately I don't think he's #1/2/3 on the list but make no mistake he is on it.
 
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1. He does well for a couple years, maybe we even get a S16 or E8 app out of it. Regardless, if he has any tourney success here, hes gone once K retires.

That's not a concern, not only for Capel but for any coach. If you tell me that Illinois hires a coach who will have such success at Illinois in the next 2-3 years to the point that Duke, UK, UNC, or KU want him, i'd be jumping from joy, even if he decides to leave. You turn the clock back to 2000, you still hire Bill Self.
 
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That's not a concern, not only for Capel but for any coach. If you tell me that Illinois hires a coach who will have such success at Illinois in the next 2-3 years to the point that Duke, UK, UNC, or KU want him, i'd be jumping from joy, even if he decides to leave. You turn the clock back to 2000, you still hire Bill Self.

Agreed.
 
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CAHALL15

Central Illinois
Wallace was injured and didn't play that game. That was a HUGE blow to Cal's chances. I don't hold that game against him at all.

Maybe I'm a little salty from the current season, but I'm growing tired of excuses of not meeting expectations/not performing well. I want to see results, not excuses. This is why I'm so high on Keatts. There are plenty of reasons for him to have underperformed at UNCW, but he hasn't.

Here's another number for the Keatts book, because numbers don't lie. The combined team record of UNCW from 2008-2009 until he took over: 65-139. Their record since? 63-26.
 
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That's not a concern, not only for Capel but for any coach. If you tell me that Illinois hires a coach who will have such success at Illinois in the next 2-3 years to the point that Duke, UK, UNC, or KU want him, i'd be jumping from joy, even if he decides to leave. You turn the clock back to 2000, you still hire Bill Self.

Bingo, create some momentum
 
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Very good analysis on these guys. I'm not sure on Hoiberg at all I think he can coach but he isn't a good recruiter. I'd rather have your top 3 over Hoiberg plus I think he gets one more year with the Bulls since he has a 5 year deal. What about Musselman is there not enough of a sample size at Nevada? If you really study his history he has won everywhere other then the NBA. He seems to have adapted very well to the college game as well. I'd put him at the 4th or 5th spot with Cuonzo

Archie is the best pick - look at where his current player at Dayton are from - Chicago. So he already has a foothold on chicago
 
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I'm really intrigued by Krystkowiak. His results at Utah, a P5 school, have to put him near or at the top. I just want to know where the whole idea is coming from that he's too Utahn or Montanan to want to leave, or wouldn't be able to figure out Midwestern recruiting if he does. I'm sincerely curious. Does anyone know if he's turned down other HC gigs recently? Does he <heart> Big Sky like Larry Bird does Indiana? Is he Mormon? I mean, he did spend 7 years in Milwaukee with the Bucks (2 as a coach) so he has to know something about our area.
 
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BananaShampoo

Captain 'Paign
Phoenix, AZ
Land enough of a big name coach and I still believe we can keep Tilmon and land Smith. But man, Smith is totally Anthony Davis 2.0 as far as bursting onto the scene. Unreal.
 
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