By all accounts Groce ran a tight ship and was a stand up leader of young men.
It's amazing how we're just gonna pretend all the stuff that happened didn't happen. Maybe Whitman really is magic.
By all accounts Groce ran a tight ship and was a stand up leader of young men.
It's amazing how we're just gonna pretend all the stuff that happened didn't happen. Maybe Whitman really is magic.
But one random message board post has changed your mind.
You picked the wrong week to quit drinking my friend, and I know because I did too.
It's not about individual mistakes from 18-22 year olds. It's about the culture of the program. By all accounts Groce ran a tight ship and was a stand up leader of young men. Buzz does not have that reputation.
I'm not pretending anything "didn't happen". But when you coach a team of 18-22 year olds for five seasons, kids make mistakes.
I am at the point where I am prepared to ride the wave of every rumor being considered given the source though.
Uhhh, it was absolutely a public rejection.
It's good that there's a double standard for MT and JW, because people were utterly ridiculous about MT in a counterproductive fashion whereas the halo around JW can only help, but man alive is there a double standard.
The Groce revisionist history has begun.
It shouldn't even be controversial to say that Groce wasn't a great leader of young men.
I think it's more like, there are standards of conduct for Illinois athletes in 2017 and beyond that are perhaps very different than the standards at Marquette in 2010. Is Buzz willing to exist within those parameters?
Because I don't think he's a cheater, he's not like Pearl in that way. He just let his kids run wild. Drinking tickets is one thing, but sexual assault stuff is not going to just get yada-yada'ed away, not in our 2017 consciousness and not at a public school.
Zook probably would have gotten in more trouble for some of what his guys were up to if it happened today too.
He was fine, as these things go. He was not the "model of leadership" Whitman described.
Rumored that Archie Miller is heading to NC State. Here's a link to a pic of his wife and nephew. They are giving the wolf pac hand sign. Ugh. He is my # 1 choice to lead the Illini. here's the link:
https://twitter.com/BballWife4Life/status/833508256874065920/photo/1
Rumored that Archie Miller is heading to NC State. Here's a link to a pic of his wife and nephew. They are giving the wolf pac hand sign. Ugh. He is my # 1 choice to lead the Illini. here's the link:
https://twitter.com/BballWife4Life/status/833508256874065920/photo/1
Rumored that Archie Miller is heading to NC State. Here's a link to a pic of his wife and nephew. They are giving the wolf pac hand sign. Ugh. He is my # 1 choice to lead the Illini. here's the link:
https://twitter.com/BballWife4Life/status/833508256874065920/photo/1
looking a bit hard into nothing here.
I had Buzz in the "no chance we can get him, so not gonna waste time talking him" category. If he truly is considering the move, I would take him over Archie Miller and my man Krystkowiak.
We are consistently relevant with Buzz as head coach. Would be a major coup.
Rumored that Archie Miller is heading to NC State. Here's a link to a pic of his wife and nephew. They are giving the wolf pac hand sign. Ugh. He is my # 1 choice to lead the Illini. here's the link:
https://twitter.com/BballWife4Life/status/833508256874065920/photo/1
Rumored? Because of this?
Archie Miller is an NC State alum. Guessing that has something to do with the gesture. Assuming his nephew may also attend.