The Illinois Coaching Search

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UofIChE06 said:
It is a relative certainty that Cuonzo will improve the program.
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Disagree with this very strongly.

It is a relative certainty that we won't get particularly worse with Cuonzo. He's not Kim Anderson. But the status quo is death.

We really have no reason to fear getting worse if it buys us a tiny sliver more upside.
 
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jrichisamazing

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Don't know anything about Musselman. S&C or any others want to enlighten me? I will definitely be watching Nevada closely in the tournament. Anybody picking them for the upset?
 
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illinoisfan11

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jrichisamazing said:
Don't know anything about Musselman. S&C or any others want to enlighten me? I will definitely be watching Nevada closely in the tournament. Anybody picking them for the upset?
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Not this guy. Iowa State is clicking right now. I think they're one of the teams who could make a surprising deep run. They already beat Kansas once. At KU no less.
 
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jrichisamazing said:
Don't know anything about Musselman. S&C or any others want to enlighten me?
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Son of former Minnesota (Gophers and later Timberwolves) coach Bill Musselman, he's been grinding in the business since his mid 20's. He's been a head coach everywhere, the CBA, the D-League, the Dominican and Venezuelan national teams, the Warriors back in the early aughts, the Kings in the mid-aughts, and now Nevada.

He is an intense guy. He wasn't super successful as an NBA head coach, and the narrative was that his crazy high energy was part of the reason why. So, naturally college looked like an option for that personality type.

He became an assistant at Arizona State under Herb Sendek and revived his career there, then moved to LSU for the only decent year they had under Johnny Jones. In both cases he was considered the offensive svengali who instantly transformed their ability to score.

Then he gets the Nevada job (he had previously coached the Reno Bighorns in the D-League, so there was some connection there).

Pre Musselman:

2014: 15-17 (Kenpom 144)
2015: 9-22 (Kenpom 271)

Musselman:

2016: 24-14 (Kenpom 124)
2017: 28-6 (Kenpom 55) Outright Mountain West Champions

Recruited some big time transfers who aren't eligible yet. Has a hot young wife. Tweets motivational quotes incessantly (like, even for a basketball coach). What else can help you with?
 
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Roundball Shaman

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TownieMatt said:
I suppose, but he wouldn't be high on my list. Especially given that Shaka has struggled so far at Texas.
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Basketball at UT Austin has muted interest and probably always will. Texas cares about football... and ah, football... and oh yes, football. Football is Religion in the Lone Star State. Yes, Shaka can grow the program from its current slumped position and he can make his money. But hoops will never ever be what it is in Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Carolina. Someone who wants a true basketball experience can take the reins at U of I and see what a real basketball state looks like.
 
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haasi

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Ok I'm sold on Musselman. What's the catch? Not a long enough NCAA coaching record? No NCAA tourney success as HC? No P5 HC success to point to? What you cited is incredibly impressive, and he also was terrific in CBA/NBDL


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Second and Chalmers

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haasi said:
What's the catch? Not a long enough coaching record? No NCAA tourney success as HC? No P5 HC success to point to?
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That's it.

If he stays next year, with the guys they have becoming eligible, Nevada should go through the ceiling. They could be a Top 25 type team.

I wish I could see that happen, but alas, we're in the market right now.
 
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PostersLastStand

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Wayne County, IL
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ILNative said:
....NO

I've already said it but I'll lay it out again. Groce before IL does not in any way equal what Keatts has done. Groce took a mediocre/okay program and KEPT it there. Besides the "caught lightning" sweet 16 run at the end, the conference record and overall body of work at Ohio was consistent with the coach preceding him. The conference records should have been a huge red flag.

Keatts on the other hand was handed the keys to a veritable dumpster fire and now they have won their conference twice in a row and are a 12 seed and the upset du jour for this tourney.
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So a conference record over a few years is a better barometer for success, than winning a couple of games once in the NCAAs. The teams in your conference know you, your style, your tendencies, the cologne you wear. It is hard to consistently win there. It takes preparation, near flawless execution and good coaching and less luck. In the NCAAs its about match-ups, style of play and yes a little luck. Its a sprint not a distance run. I would agree, if I understood your post.
 
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Dirtbags32

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The Coaching Search thread is such a double-edged sword. On one hand, it means we've sucked consistently enough to warrant a change. On the other hand, this thread is by far the most entertaining. Somebody said it earlier, Steve Masiello got 2 pages on this thing!....Carry on.
 
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ILNative

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PostersLastStand said:
So a conference record over a few years is a better barometer for success, than winning a couple of games once in the NCAAs. The teams in your conference know you, your style, your tendencies, the cologne you wear. It is hard to consistently win there. It takes preparation, near flawless execution and good coaching and less luck. In the NCAAs its about match-ups, style of play and yes a little luck. Its a sprint not a distance run. I would agree, if I understood your post.
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in this particular comparison, yes. :thumb:
 
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MadSeason

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Second and Chalmers said:
Son of former Minnesota (Gophers and later Timberwolves) coach Bill Musselman, he's been grinding in the business since his mid 20's. He's been a head coach everywhere, the CBA, the D-League, the Dominican and Venezuelan national teams, the Warriors back in the early aughts, the Kings in the mid-aughts, and now Nevada.

He is an intense guy. He wasn't super successful as an NBA head coach, and the narrative was that his crazy high energy was part of the reason why. So, naturally college looked like an option for that personality type.

He became an assistant at Arizona State under Herb Sendek and revived his career there, then moved to LSU for the only decent year they had under Johnny Jones. In both cases he was considered the offensive svengali who instantly transformed their ability to score.

Then he gets the Nevada job (he had previously coached the Reno Bighorns in the D-League, so there was some connection there).

Pre Musselman:

2014: 15-17 (Kenpom 144)
2015: 9-22 (Kenpom 271)

Musselman:

2016: 24-14 (Kenpom 124)
2017: 28-6 (Kenpom 55) Outright Mountain West Champions

Recruited some big time transfers who aren't eligible yet. Has a hot young wife. Tweets motivational quotes incessantly (like, even for a basketball coach). What else can help you with?
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He has a great resume. Not so sure about that shirtless thing though. Too many Pearl memories.

I am surprised you like him as much as you do as he sounds like basketball Fleck
 
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