Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (October 2017)

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Simeon...

Might as well kiss any Simeon kid goodbye. If I'm Robert Smith, I have no interest in doing anything with brad Underwood at all.

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Would seem Underwood is just trying to do his job of getting the best players he can. And tbh, name me one Simeon difference maker that has come to Illinois under the Robert Smith tenure. Kendrick Nunn? And I am well aware of the history of Simeon players to Illinois. None of that has come to fruition in recent times though.
 
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Maybe the THT camp played this up to the end as a shot back at MIF. Lots of attention, coverage, clicks, and drama.
 
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People want us to own Chicago. Well, unfortunately this kind of thing happens. Ayo is a better player and the Irvins have a better pipeline at the moment. Easy decision (assuming what we are being told is true)
 
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Would seem Underwood is just trying to do his job of getting the best players he can. And tbh, name me one Simeon difference maker that has come to Illinois under the Robert Smith tenure. Kendrick Nunn? And I am well aware of the history of Simeon players to Illinois. None of that has come to fruition in recent times though.

Yep. If you show two bridges and say one has to be blown up, which one are you going to blow up?:illinois:
 
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Occam's Razor. I agree. But I would replace the "And" in the second sentence with an "and/or."

Or maybe the Irvins had literally nothing to do with this and the 2 kids just decided they didn't really want to play together. And THT has had his mind set on ISU/ Xavier for a few days and people are just now getting wind of it... aka nothing changed.

Quit making up stories and just assuming its facts.
 
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People want us to own Chicago. Well, unfortunately this kind of thing happens. Ayo is a better player and the Irvins have a better pipeline at the moment. Easy decision (assuming what we are being told is true)

You got it. Pick the path that gets you to where you want to be, partner up and stick with it.

You know, I don't disagree with the strategy. It's business. You go with who's going to get you to the dance. What I do disagree with is how it was handled. If this was even a REMOTE possibility, we should not have had THT on an OV.

Agree with the path, angry with how it was handled.
 
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For the wing recruit. I think from day one we should just take Tim Finke. I just feel bad that in his hardest time we turned to other choices and may have to turn to him when other choices are burned.

A local kid who's a 6'6 wing and in or bordering top 100. We lose focus on him just because of a bad summer. Pathetic.

It's not like he's committed anywhere, calling it pathetic is overboard. For all you know he could still be playing for Illinois next year.
 
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if this is all true....I really hope that THT blows up beyond belief and force our staff to eternally regret.

I like Ayo...but not standing up for his own decision is a sign of weakness. He will grow out of it. I dont think Mark Smith decision was by handlers, was it?
 
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I don't know about all this...

Underwood says he won't beg players to come here, but he lets recruits dictate who we can accept commitments from? That's something I'm not proud of. Sadly, playing this type of recruiting game is probably the difference between winning in college basketball and being like we have been since Bill Self left. I don't feel good about the program going this route - I'm not proud of that. Especially if Underwood told THT he can't accept his commitment today. Don't string the poor kid along like that!

Hopefully this is a one-time thing. I don't like the idea of Underwood bending the knee to any AAU coach. I don't care who plays on the AAU coach's team.
 
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We don't need THT AND WE NEVER DID but we really really want Ayo. We also made a decision to get into bed with the Mac Fire. It may end up being the bed that helps us land mags talent. Underwood is at least playing the game for real. Much respect to Underwood for not being a sissy and taking the best player. Let's see how the Mac Fire relationship goes from here
 
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if this is all true....I really hope that THT blows up beyond belief and force our staff to eternally regret.

Why would you root against our staff? Are you not a fan of the Illini? Do you not think Underwood and staff will get us to a better spot than where we have currently been the last how many years?
 
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I don't know about all this...

Underwood says he won't beg players to come here, but he lets recruits dictate who we can accept commitments from? That's something I'm not proud of. Sadly, playing this type of recruiting game is probably the difference between winning in college basketball and being like we have been since Bill Self left. I don't feel good about the program going this route - I'm not proud of that. Especially if Underwood told THT he can't accept his commitment today. Don't string the poor kid along like that!

Hopefully this is a one-time thing. I don't like the idea of Underwood bending the knee to any AAU coach. I don't care who plays on the AAU coach's team.

It's why Tom Izzo doesn't deal with it, Lon Kruger refused to and John Groce was unsuccessful.

Well, we have an elite PG when all of the dust clears. We've gotten our first taste in a long time of recruiting Chicago. It is what it is. If you're going to get involved, you had better have a partnership. The MIF partnership is the gold standard, so ride it. BU is going to get a black eye on this one, but hopefully the dividends pay off in 2019 and 2020.
 
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I'm blown away that Underwood and his staff would even allow themselves to be put in this position to begin with???? Looks horrible for the program if what we are hearing is actually true. Really thought he was smarter than this.
 
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We don't need THT AND WE NEVER DID but we really really want Ayo. We also made a decision to get into bed with the Mac Fire. It may end up being the bed that helps us land mags talent. Underwood is at least playing the game for real. Much respect to Underwood for not being a sissy and taking the best player. Let's see how the Mac Fire relationship goes from here

This...... 100%
 
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