TownieMatt
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I could be wrong but I think Payton may be a 19 recruit.
He is indeed. He still has time to develop his face-up game. And we still have time to evaluate him before pulling the trigger.
I could be wrong but I think Payton may be a 19 recruit.
Tyger Campbell to UCLA. Big for potential Ramey -> Illini.
Was Ramey considering UCLA?
Tate was really our only PG option at the time, though. Neither Hill nor Nunn were PGs. There's your answer. Plus Groce. That said, pretty much everyone was clamoring for Hill and Nunn to get more minutes by end of non-con because it was obvious they were players.To many years of examples to say who will be a better player based on one year of play. Remember how many minutes Tate got over Hill and Nunn his freshman year.
Scheduled to OV next weekend.
Who knows, he may still take that OV, but UCLA now has a top-100 PG and 2 top-100 SGs. I would think that serious players remaining are Illinois, Ohio State, OKST, and Texas.
Tyger Campbell to UCLA. Big for potential Ramey -> Illini.
Tyger Campbell to UCLA. Big for potential Ramey -> Illini.
Ok. Now I'm paying attention on the Ramey front for real.
Tyger Campbell to UCLA. Big for potential Ramey -> Illini.
Illinois has offered @LuHiBasketball & @PSACardinals 2019 guard Tyson Etienne
https://twitter.com/AdamFinkelstein/status/959255439807582208
It's interesting that Underwood is apparently selling Ramey on playing 3 guard with Frazier & Ayo. There's no way Smith would feel good about being the odd man out in that rotation. Thankfully, Williams build allows for him to play the 1-3 and he would still get ample playing time. However, Smith, AJ, and Lucas minutes would be severely hurt with the addition of Ramey to the class. I'm all for adding the kid because he sounds like an athletic combo guard who does it all and has a mean streak (which is exactly what we need). I'd have to imagine that at least one of our current guards will not be here next year if we do in fact add Ramey. What's so frustrating is with how many great guards we'll have, if we could add any bigs that were competent rebounders, defenders, and garbage bucket getters, we would be a legit team.
Yep. Ramey would be unreal. Ramey and Gordon would be unreal cubed. When does the ax fall on Goodwin? Gotta tamp it down.
It's interesting that Underwood is apparently selling Ramey on playing 3 guard with Frazier & Ayo. There's no way Smith would feel good about being the odd man out in that rotation. Thankfully, Williams build allows for him to play the 1-3 and he would still get ample playing time. However, Smith, AJ, and Lucas minutes would be severely hurt with the addition of Ramey to the class. I'm all for adding the kid because he sounds like an athletic combo guard who does it all and has a mean streak (which is exactly what we need). I'd have to imagine that at least one of our current guards will not be here next year if we do in fact add Ramey. What's so frustrating is with how many great guards we'll have, if we could add any bigs that were competent rebounders, defenders, and garbage bucket getters, we would be a legit team.
It's interesting that Underwood is apparently selling Ramey on playing 3 guard with Frazier & Ayo. There's no way Smith would feel good about being the odd man out in that rotation. Thankfully, Williams build allows for him to play the 1-3 and he would still get ample playing time. However, Smith, AJ, and Lucas minutes would be severely hurt with the addition of Ramey to the class. I'm all for adding the kid because he sounds like an athletic combo guard who does it all and has a mean streak (which is exactly what we need). I'd have to imagine that at least one of our current guards will not be here next year if we do in fact add Ramey. What's so frustrating is with how many great guards we'll have, if we could add any bigs that were competent rebounders, defenders, and garbage bucket getters, we would be a legit team.
A few things here:
- You always sell recruits on an ideal outcome if they join your program. For Ramey, that's to come in and join a talented young backcourt in an offense that can utilize multiple ballhandlers.
- The players you mention there are guys that have already had their roles reduced on a team that's currently 2-9 in the B1G. Those are the type of players that get recruited-over at successful programs. I like each of those guys, but to get better, certain players will have to move aside.
- Transfers happen every year, especially in the years immediately following a coaching change. We should expect it, and even welcome it (it's often a win-win for player and program). What we shouldn't do is speculate who it will be while they're still on our roster. That doesn't help anyone.
Why does Williams' build allow him to play the 1-3 spots, but not Smith?
Dear lord we like to write off freshmen early, especially for them to be replaced by incoming freshmen who haven’t even stepped foot on campus yet. This board can be ridiculously fickle and impatient sometimes.
I don't disagree with you on this point. I do think that so far, Williams has proven his worth much more than Smith has. One thing I've learned as a coach is that potential is great and every coach wants players that have potential. But if potential doesn't become reality on the court, it doesn't mean squat. Smith and Williams have to improve for next year or they will quickly be replaced by players like Ayo and potentially Ramey.
All of this is perfect. I’m glad I did t have to type it all! When this team makes the NCAA tournament in two years (not that they won’t next year) Frazier might be the only guy getting significant minutes that’s already on the roster.
Writing off is much different than being a realist. Everyone arguing that Smith and Williams must improve next year in order to play is 100% correct. I don't think anyone has stated that they don't think Williams or Smith have potential or that they will eventually make those improvements. I believe they will and ultimately will be great assets to our team. HOWEVER, if they don't improve, especially Smith on the defensive end, they will quickly get passed up.