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Funny we just talked about this......
Sorry, not really following what your saying here. If we get a 4 star safety in the next class, I wont care if he comes from Texas or Chicago. Yes it would be nice if we started making inroads within the state. But it is not a priority to me at this point.We’re not the ones being picky.
I reiterate, you need to care.
They literally they offered 19 guys and got 1. Yeah let’s go sign some FCS kid from Peoria so it looks better. The University also doesn’t even attract that many kids. More kids leave the state to go to college than stay in it. So let’s not act like it’s a big deal that’s ridiculous.How do you not sign anyone from the state of Illinois. This is a failure of epic proportions that needs to be corrected immediately. For the flagship University of a state to not recruit anyone from the state is utterly embarasing. I don't care how good or bad the other recruits are, to be shutout of the home state is unbelievable. Shame on this staff.
How do you not sign anyone from the state of Illinois. This is a failure of epic proportions that needs to be corrected immediately. For the flagship University of a state to not recruit anyone from the state is utterly embarasing. I don't care how good or bad the other recruits are, to be shutout of the home state is unbelievable. Shame on this staff.
Couple of transfer names to keep a lookout for S- Kwantel Raines, DT Swan and Bryant lawless. Also look out for Ken Montgomery Jr.
It is a big deal. How can you offer 19 kids and not sign any (maybe one?). And thanks or making my point on the University in general. Too many foreigners and not enough in-state students.They literally they offered 19 guys and got 1. Yeah let’s go sign some FCS kid from Peoria so it looks better. The University also doesn’t even attract that many kids. More kids leave the state to go to college than stay in it. So let’s not act like it’s a big deal that’s ridiculous.
Sorry, not really following what your saying here. If we get a 4 star safety in the next class, I wont care if he comes from Texas or Chicago. Yes it would be nice if we started making inroads within the state. But it is not a priority to me at this point.
Year | Highest rank to UoI | Star level of this player | # of 5 * in IL for Year | # of 4 * in IL for Year | # of kids in top 20 from IL to UoI |
2020 | 7 th | 3 * | 0 | 5 | 1 |
2019 | 11 th | 3 * | 0 | 8 | 1 |
2018 | 6 th | 3 * | 0 | 5 | 3 |
2017 | 8 th | 3 * | 1 | 6 | 4 |
2016 | 36 th | 3 * | 0 | 6 | 0 |
2015 | 4 th | 4 * | 1 | 4 | 2 |
Nobody thinks they are good. We all get it. Right now, Lovie has to get the best players he can, wherever that might be. Over time, I believe we will do better.Here are some stats I collected from 247 for the State of Illinois
(https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=highschool&State=IL):
Those numbers, to me, do not look good.
Year Highest rank to UoI Star level of this player # of 5 * in IL for Year # of 4 * in IL for Year # of kids in top 20 from IL to UoI 2020 7 th 3 * 0 5 1 2019 11 th 3 * 0 8 1 2018 6 th 3 * 0 5 3 2017 8 th 3 * 1 6 4 2016 36 th 3 * 0 6 0 2015 4 th 4 * 1 4 2
And please show where these kids signed. I’ll bet most were Notre dame, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Iowa or Michigan.Here are some stats I collected from 247 for the State of Illinois
(https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=highschool&State=IL):
Those numbers, to me, do not look good.
Year Highest rank to UoI Star level of this player # of 5 * in IL for Year # of 4 * in IL for Year # of kids in top 20 from IL to UoI 2020 7 th 3 * 0 5 1 2019 11 th 3 * 0 8 1 2018 6 th 3 * 0 5 3 2017 8 th 3 * 1 6 4 2016 36 th 3 * 0 6 0 2015 4 th 4 * 1 4 2
So, out of 35 4 or 5 star kids, we got just 1 (based on the 247 web site)? Hitting 2.7% for 4/5 star kids within our border. These are not FCS kids from Peoria. UoI lost, granted we perhaps did not need all, 35 kids?
Couple of transfer names to keep a lookout for S- Kwantel Raines, DT Swan and Bryant lawless. Also look out for Ken Montgomery Jr.
So I will take a crack at it, Everyone wants talent, no one wants to turn away a good player from Florida or Texas or wherever...I think Twangers point is there is a ceiling on recruiting Florida/Texas, we have been able to grab a few good players, but getting Beason is the exception, not the rule.Sorry, not really following what your saying here. If we get a 4 star safety in the next class, I wont care if he comes from Texas or Chicago. Yes it would be nice if we started making inroads within the state. But it is not a priority to me at this point.
Year | 5 stars | 4 stars |
2020 | None | (5): NW, MI, TAM, IA, ND |
2019 | None | (8): MI, IA-State, MS, TT, ND, AL, IA, MN |
2018 | None | (5) GA, WI, IA, VT, NW |
2017 | (1) IA | (6) Miami, ND, MSU, AR, ND, WI |
2016 | None | (6) MSU, MSU, PSU, tOSU, MSU, MS |
2015 | (1) MO | (4) MSU, ND, IL, MO |
Nobody thinks they are good. We all get it. Right now, Lovie has to get the best players he can, wherever that might be. Over time, I believe we will do better.
So what are our alternatives....do we fire Lovie and get someone else? Or do we assume Lovie knows there are good players I'm Illinois, is doing the best he can to get them, and see what happens? Do we make him hire certain assistants with Illinois roots? I think you are very much correct that we need to do better in Illinois. I just don't know what your proposed solution might be. I think the arrow is pointing slightly up. I would like to see it play out another year or two before we change direction.True. However, we have been saying that for decades. As a class of 79 I have been patient. Guess with age I am running out of it. Time for the youngsters out here to take over that patience.
As I think this over, I think a good part of my frustration was due to "wait till Dec 18". Then all that happened was nothing happened that we did not know.
he gave you the link ...5 ND, 2 WIS, 1 OSU, 4 IA, 2 MichAnd please show where these kids signed. I’ll bet most were Notre dame, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Iowa or Michigan.
he gave you the link ...5 ND, 2 WIS, 1 OSU, 4 IA, 2 Mich
others of note MSU - 5 (but none in last 3 yrs), NW -2, Mizzou -2 (but both 2015)
2015 - Mizzou, MSU, ND,ILL, Mizzou
2016 - MSU, MSU, PSU, tOSU, MSU, OleMiss
2017 - IA, Mia,ND, MSU, Ark, ND, Wis
2018 - GA, WIS, IA, VT, NW
2019 - Mich, ISU, Ole Miss TexTech, ND, Bama, IA, Minn
2020 - NW, Mich, A&M, IA, ND
Twangers to this board right now:Still only discussing the state of Illinois. Sigh.