The Illinois Football Coaching Search

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Illwinsagain said:
Sorry, couple of hours behind. I watch that video, and I agree with Chief Gritty, goober, in a great way, really loved it! Honest, oh gosh, it will play well in Central Illinois, and with a lot of high school coaches. Will it play well with the recruits, no idea. However, with the new transfer rules, a new coach has a real chance to overhaul a roster, very quickly.
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What, is Buffalo's current roster just white guys from rural, upstate New York? Well, if comes to Illinois, hopefully he can keep Keynodo Hudson on the staff to keep up Illinois' recruiting success.
 
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ChiefGritty

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So Leipold gets the Buffalo job, brings his two coordinators, then also hired Rob Ianello, who he wasn't connected with, as an AHC/RC. As a former MAC head coach at Akron and a guy who really knew the recruiting scene from being Charlie Weis' RC at ND and Kansas, that was a very smart way to fill in what was missing in Leipold's background in one move and provide a guide to the things that would be different from what he had been accustomed to.

I would argue that the equivalent in taking this job would not be bringing Ianello along, at least not in the same role, but finding a new guide figure at this level that would scale to our level of resources. Or maybe even splitting that job in two with a program management type guy as an AHC and a recruiting coordinator who has a lot of expertise in that area.

Again, this is thinking like an SEC school. A staff is about hoarding assets.
 
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wma500

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I'm not sold on Zebrowski. He got run out of Minnesota pretty good by Clayes. He was one of Kill's guys, but QB play and points were not strong suits of Minnesota football during his tenure there. After Minn, he bounced around the D3 level for a year or two. I know he was looking for a head coaching gig in the WIAC and maybe a couple other D3 schools. I hadn't heard about him in a while, but was surprised to see him on LL's Buffalo staff.
 
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ChiefGritty said:
To state the case against LL for the record: he's a 56 year old Wisconsin goober whose entire D1 resume is going 25-20 in the MAC over six years, at a program that's a historic backwater, but wasn't exactly a dumpster fire when he got there.

Can you just toss out anything that happened in D3 where there aren't any scholarships? Arguably.
Were his first three years at Buffalo less than you would expect from a future Big Ten coach? Arguably.
Are the two years after his 2018 breakthrough kinda less than you might have hoped? Arguably. (Not his fault they only played 5 games this year, but they only played 5 games this year)
Does the whole Buffalo resume in general feel a little Al Golden-y? Arguably.
Is he just kind of a ho-hum guy that's it's hard to see as a galvanizing figure? Arguably.


Could basically every word of the above have been said about Jerry Kill when Minnesota hired him? Arguably.
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ChiefGritty is turning in to one of my favorite posters. Just when I think I love LL, you convince me not to ... then you kind of make me think I do again. My head spins every time I read one of your posts. You are obviously a lawyer.
 
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Illinifan533

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BZuppke said:
I think Josh would be taking a very big risk hiring Leipold. Some big winners on a lower level can duplicate things at a power 5 level but MOST do not. Josh cannot afford a second failure here or it’s his job. The safe bet is BB who will without a doubt develop a winning program. If 7-8 wins a year gets monotonous you can make a change down the road. If Leipold is yet another guy who fails in the big time lights you’re starting from scratch again 5 years from now.
Guided by the Lovie hire I would be surprised if Josh takes a chance on Leipold translating to power 5.
As to Monken there’s a reason no one has run a triple option in the Big Ten in decades. We’re not going to do it and succeed.
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Assuming that Brad Underwood is still the coach and has kept Illinois basketball as a perennial top 25 team, I don't think Whitman will have to worry about his job if he whiffs on another football hire. Ron Guenther's football hires all failed (albeit with a few exciting seasons before they crashed and burned) and he kept his job until he retired. The unfortunate truth is that Whitman's bosses care more about results in the classroom than they do on the field/court (which isn't an entirely bad thing. These are student athletes, after all). As long as the AD and coaches support the academics and stay scandal-free, the administration is happy.
 
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bugs bunny thank you GIF by Looney Tunes

I’ve never seen Leipold but assume he looks like this. #Leopold
 
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I just hope there isn't an announcement until Sunday or next week because it probably means we are getting a guy who is coaching in a championship game this weekend. First choice would be Fickell but if it is Leipold I'd be happy with that too.
 
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EyeoftheIllini

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So the thread has 57 pages right now and announcement isn’t expected until Sunday at the earliest. What’s the over/under for final page count.
 
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Illwinsagain

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EyeoftheIllini said:
So the thread has 57 pages right now and announcement isn’t expected until Sunday at the earliest. What’s the over/under for final page count.
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I expect an regression over the next couple of days, but, a great surge at the end. I will go with 123 pages. =/- 3.
 
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Hi everyone. I just happened upon this thread and was hoping someone could summarize the 57 pages for me in 2-3 sentences and do it as though I’m in 2nd or 3rd grade and could you do it now bc I really want to know.

Also, has anyone thought to mention Bret Bielema as a possible candidate?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Boomauer

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I think the most important things for JW in this hire is the quality of staff the new coach will bring or assemble and how the face to face meetings go with the prospective coaches. I look back at MT hiring of Beckman and am amazed at how he misread that whole thing. How could he have been impressed with TB once he opened his mouth...and not known most of the assistants would stay w/Campbell's staff. Hope Josh is getting great intel and makes a home run hire.

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altenberger22

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trtl said:
Hi everyone. I just happened upon this thread and was hoping someone could summarize the 57 pages for me in 2-3 sentences and do it as though I’m in 2nd or 3rd grade and could you do it now bc I really want to know.

Also, has anyone thought to mention Bret Bielema as a possible candidate?

Thanks in advance.
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Indiana grad? Iowa?
 
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