Illinois 75, Indiana 71 OT Postgame

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Yeah the last few games save for iowa he was having like a 5 pt first half then like 10-15 2nd.

Then iowa he had like 19 in first and 6 in second.
Is it just me or would you rather have the Iowa game.
 
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Nothing I saw from Trent tonight was impressive...
paul rudd what GIF

I just completely disagree.
 
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I couldn't believe coach kept playing him. He was making lots of mistakes and doing nothing on offense. I really don't understand how many miniutes he is getting when not playing well.
His defense has been very strong, that was huge tonight to plug the holes due to foul trouble.
 
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Painful yet exhilarating. It's great to win a game when you have given up hope a hundred times. Don't know what has happened to Ayo lately but he has laid 3 eggs in 4 of of our last games. I'll bet coach will have a lot to say about some issues in this game like rebounding and hacking. Officiating was the worst I've seen this year and hopefully it will be reviewed. Great to get a win.
 
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Chilliniwek

Chicagoland
No one has under valued Trent hes under valued himself it just goes to show how far expectations have fallen for him when everyone's all googly eyed about him scoring 19 pts when honestly he should be averaging 15+ pts every game even with Ayo because opportunities he just hasn't made his shots .

Nothing I saw from Trent tonight was impressive and its not because I dont think hes good but because its the caliber of play we saw 4 years ago from him and that should be expected of a player of his caliber .
I see you didn't actually watch the game. He and GB are the ultimate team players for adjusting to different roles since Ayo and Kofi showed up. They still play their hearts out every game. Trent took over tonight when other things weren't working.
 
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So they mentioned on the broadcast that January 9, 2010 was the last time Illinois won at Indiana. This was the starting line-up for Illinois in that game:

Bill Cole
Mike Davis
Mike Tisdale
D.J. Richardson
Jeffrey Jordan

Dominique Keller, Brandon Paul, and Demetri McCamey came off the bench for the Illini in that game. Tisdale led all scorers in that game with 27 points including 13-14 from the free throw line. Demetri McCamey had 19 points off the bench. Richardson also finished in double figures with 14 points.

Why on earth would Jeffrey Jordan be starting over McCamey?!
 
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I couldn't believe coach kept playing him. He was making lots of mistakes and doing nothing on offense. I really don't understand how many miniutes he is getting when not playing well.

he was still playing solid defense. That’s the thing that’s keeping him on the floor right now and one thing I’ve been impressed with. Very easy for a highly recruited freshmen to hang his head when things aren’t going offensively but I always see him giving 100% effort on the other end
 
#238      
I don't think Ayo played poorly. He had an off night because Indiana thought if they could stop him - they win. He could never get into "flying" because he was often doubled on top, scratched, bumped, and knocked to the floor. He was even called for an offensive foul in the first half when he used his left hand to try to protect his dribble from a reach-in. For all the fouls called, I can't believe how the refs let him get abused. He's a special player and we will miss him terribly when he's gone.
 
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altgeld88

Arlington, Virginia
I didn't stay to the bitter end. Too late given an early morning here. A single OT game clocking in at 2:45?! That's not ideal.

Can't tell if we should be pleased that the boys can pull out a game in OT on the road after giving up >40 in first half down seven, or to wonder whether that latter part is eventually going to sink us.

+100 for Trent. Curbelo is going to be a great one by the time he leaves.
 
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No doubt the officiating was bad tonight, but at least the number of fouls called on each team was about the same.
There is a huge difference between calling a tight game and this. I would think this is not the type of officiating the league wants. Plus, I see the league looking at the geriatric time keeper's table because this had to be close to a record on how many times the refs had to go get the clock straightened out. I knew from the opening "taunt" that this was going to be a poorly called game. Trent does not have a rep for this. The league does not want an almost three hour game as it really looks bad. Players want to play and not have 54 fouls in 73 possessions. That is insane.
 
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There is a huge difference between calling a tight game and this. I would think this is not the type of officiating the league wants. Plus, I see the league looking at the geriatric time keeper's table because this had to be close to a record on how many times the refs had to go get the clock straightened out. I knew from the opening "taunt" that this was going to be a poorly called game. Trent does not have a rep for this. The league does not want an almost three hour game as it really looks bad. Players want to play and not have 54 fouls in 73 possessions. That is insane.
The refs/clock were as close to a rain delay as you can get in basketball. I can't recall enjoying an Illini win less.

Really happy for the team. Way to hang in there. If you gotta play in a slog like this, you might as well win it.
 
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Was too tired to post anything after the game. That was brutal.

1. Those refs destroyed any chance of having a watchable game. Absolutely garbage. Not even that they were necessarily anti-Illinois, they were just terrible. No consistency. A foul was called what, every 20 seconds or so? Just terrible. I wish there were consequences, but they'll be right back out there for the next game.

2. I'm not necessarily unhappy about how we played. I think it was just a rough game against a not good/not bad team that likes to muck it up, so the officiating played right into it. The game was ugly, and they eventually pulled it off. Big win.

3. I'm a little worried about our 3/4 position. Damonte apparently has been dealing with an injury. Miller has been hitting some pretty significant rough patches (to be expected from a freshman). Really want to see Grandison play with consistency. I think he's the answer at 4 for this particular roster.

A couple random Indiana thoughts:
4. Trayce Jackson Davis: first off I had no idea he was Dale Davis' kid. I remember him on those 90s Pacers teams. I don't get the hype with him. I pretty much only watch them when they're playing Illinois, but I don't think he's an NBA player. I don't see it. To me, he seems like the classic "overhyped kid of an NBA player that was overrated basically his entire youth career" so now everyone just has this assumption that he's gonna be a pro. He has no shooting range or handles to be a modern 4. He doesn't have the size to be a center. I don't get it.

5. What the heck is Indiana and Archie Miller now? They play that muck-it-up, ugly game of physical, fouling defense and somewhat awful offense. This is like watching a good Chambers Penn State team or a bad Painter Purdue team. There's no way Indiana fans are happy about this being their identity/team.
 
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Big props to Kofi for catching that ball from Curbelo. Big fella fumbled some of those earlier in the year.

Grandison played well in OT. Not sure why he wasn’t getting in during the second half, especially with Miller out of sorts.
I agree with first part. Grandison was getting beat on the boards consistently in 2nd. He is more of a 3 and I think he played well in OT because DaMonte was out there too to help with some of the dirty work. By themselves at the 4, they are undersized, but together, they are a good pair.
 
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I agree. I think Trent is a victim of how people remember his previous seasons. He is basically shooting as well as he ever has this year, he just doesn’t shoot as much. Tonight he took 11 shots, which I believe now gives him 2 games this year he’s attempted 11 or more shots. I believe he had something like 20 such games his freshman year and about 15 his sophomore year. To me, given what he brings defensively now, this is his best season. Another impressive thing about his game tonight was in this foul fest, he played 43 minutes with only two fouls. That was huge with both Ayo and Curbelo in foul trouble.
And one of those two fouls was for yelling "Cash!" at the Hoosier bench.
 
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There is a huge difference between calling a tight game and this. I would think this is not the type of officiating the league wants. Plus, I see the league looking at the geriatric time keeper's table because this had to be close to a record on how many times the refs had to go get the clock straightened out. I knew from the opening "taunt" that this was going to be a poorly called game. Trent does not have a rep for this. The league does not want an almost three hour game as it really looks bad. Players want to play and not have 54 fouls in 73 possessions. That is insane.
No argument here. But if you had said before the game that Indiana would shoot 34 free throws at home, I’m guessing most people including me would have thought IU would end up with 10-15 more FT attempts on the game. Yes it was ugly, yes it made for a less than enjoyable game, yes I hope I never see a game called like that again, but at least the number of fouls called on and FT attempted by each team were basically even.