illininutt
- Tinley Park
Once they sign they can never go back to college and have the school pay?
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Chainsaw's boy?
Not with NIL in place. If anything I think NIL will substantially hurt these types of organizations. I think the earning potential for 5 stars is much higher in college with the existing fanbases. The only kids I see going this route are ones that just don't want anything to do with the school aspect of college.Will Overtime Elite ruin college basketball?
Overtime Elite signs five-star point guard Jazian Gortman
Five-star class of 2022 point guard Jazian Gortman has signed with Overtime Elite.sports.yahoo.com
Yeah, this might have been discussed elsewhere, but what is the business model that will allow Overtime Elite to succeed? Are they expecting to get TV money? I have no desire to watch that league. I watched about a half of Green and Kuminga’s first G League game and that was it. Sure these things will dilute talent in the college game a bit, but likely not enough to make a difference. And the large majority of college basketball fans have no idea who these players are.
I'm kinda wondering what the advantage of Overtime Elite is vs G League or NIL money?
Overtime Launches A Basketball League That Will Pay High School Players Six-Figure Salaries
Overtime Elite (OTE) is a new basketball league for up-and-coming elite high school prospects offering a year-round development program by combining coaching, sports science and performance technologies, facilities and an academic program that not only benefits players at this point in their career development, but also as they progress into the professional ranks.
The single-site league, beginning in September in a city still to be determined (there are two unnamed finalists), features approximately 30 elite boys basketball prospects, each earning a six-figure salary and the ability to participate in revenue from use of their name, image and likeness (NIL) including through the sale of customized jerseys, video games, NFTs or trading cards as they also retain the right to sign direct sponsorships with sneaker companies.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michae...-players-six-figure-salaries/?sh=99ad2cb55423
Personally, I think the G-League will win out over purely prep leagues for athletes who don't want to go to class. Jalen Green and Jonathan Kuminga have been excellent in the Summer League. For most rookies, the Sumer league is a step up in competition. For the guys who played on G-League Ignite, its probably a step down. I have a hard time believing the competition in these prep leagues is going to stack up to either.
Perhaps the NIL will prove lucrative enough to attract more of the top preps players back to the NCAA, but Green and Kuminga are torpedoing the argument that going straight to the G-League isn't good for development. They are playing more like second year guys than rookies.
I agree. I think G League fills that niche for players good enough to get invited. I think NIL provides the opportunity for good money and proven (although probably not quite as good as G league) development. I'm skeptical that Overtime Elite is a good choice for anyone compared to those two options.
Ignite isn't a guarantee any more than college. Daishen Nix is proof of that. Ignite had 5 guys straight from HS and 3 got drafted. One of those 3 was a 2nd rounder so that's not likely a guaranteed deal
Ignite is an option but probably not any better than a number of programs around the country.
Ignite is for the kids who cant pass the GPA requirement of college teams.
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
Homecoming 2019
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Nothing can ruin college basketball for me, as long as we have a team representing Illinois and facing other teams representing their schools. The talent level could be similar to Saturday pick-up at the ARC and I'd still probably be just as emotional come March.
RedRocksIllini
- Morrison, CO
I don't know. If we start running out guys with my level of "talent", I would hope you would boo me off the court. I know I would.
Pretty good take. Kids in this league will not be seen by anyone but NBA scouts.
But I do not agree that college hoops will become diluted in talent in any significant way. Fans will support their schools teams, regardless of talent. And whether there are a dozen top kids missing each year from the college mix, half of the games played will be won. Coaches will coach kids up and develop efficient teams with talented players. The college game will be every bit as good as it ever was. Kids who have no desire to deal with school requirements will not be there, which is better IMHO. And who knows how long leagues such as this will be around? Does any college fan care? Why would a good kid with a good head on his shoulders bypass playing for Illinois, OSU, Indiana, Arizona, Duke, etc. and choose to play in obscurity? Those that choose to bypass those educational opportunities to play in developmental leagues are not always likely to be an overall asset to a good college team anyway. Good Luck to Overtime Elite and their league....they will need it.
Looks like Hunter Dickinson when he plays against Kofi
UNC says, wait....
Can’t believe they changed their name to overtime elite. Will they still play football?
It's better than MSU Spartans Presented by Rocket Mortgage.
illininutt
- Tinley Park
We offered earlier this summer: (Iowa just offered today)
We landed a big Bass.
RE: Ignite/G League vs going to college….the draw is simple. These kids want to get paid for their talents while they have the ability to get paid for their talents. They aren’t thinking about long term, what happens when I can’t play anymore. The line of thinking is “I’ll make so much money while I play, that won’t matter”. And honestly, I don’t blame them one bit.
NIL is nice to help college compete, but G League is paying them, they don’t have to deal with classes AND they have a college ride built into the contract. Sure, they can’t play D1 college ball at that point, but it’s a free education later.
NIL is nice to help college compete, but G League is paying them, they don’t have to deal with classes AND they have a college ride built into the contract. Sure, they can’t play D1 college ball at that point, but it’s a free education later.
Sounds good, but going back to school is really hard for many adults who have been away from that regimen for years. i hope someone keeps track of that stat. Free education is one thing, paying bills another..
Yeah I don't think anyone is disputing that. I think the questions are around how these companies make any money to pay the kids since next to no one watches these leagues.
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