illininutt
- Tinley Park
Once they sign they can never go back to college and have the school pay?Yeah nobody will watch these amateur pro leagues. No one watches the G league either
Once they sign they can never go back to college and have the school pay?Yeah nobody will watch these amateur pro leagues. No one watches the G league either
Chainsaw's boy?2022 SG Nick Smith Jr. (North Little Rock, AR)
Not with NIL in place. If anything I think NIL will substantially hurt these types of organizations. I think the earning potential for 5 stars is much higher in college with the existing fanbases. The only kids I see going this route are ones that just don't want anything to do with the school aspect of college.Will Overtime Elite ruin college basketball?
Overtime Elite signs five-star point guard Jazian Gortman
Five-star class of 2022 point guard Jazian Gortman has signed with Overtime Elite.sports.yahoo.com
Yeah, this might have been discussed elsewhere, but what is the business model that will allow Overtime Elite to succeed? Are they expecting to get TV money? I have no desire to watch that league. I watched about a half of Green and Kuminga’s first G League game and that was it. Sure these things will dilute talent in the college game a bit, but likely not enough to make a difference. And the large majority of college basketball fans have no idea who these players are.Yeah nobody will watch these amateur pro leagues. No one watches the G league either
I'm kinda wondering what the advantage of Overtime Elite is vs G League or NIL money?
Personally, I think the G-League will win out over purely prep leagues for athletes who don't want to go to class. Jalen Green and Jonathan Kuminga have been excellent in the Summer League. For most rookies, the Sumer league is a step up in competition. For the guys who played on G-League Ignite, its probably a step down. I have a hard time believing the competition in these prep leagues is going to stack up to either.I'm kinda wondering what the advantage of Overtime Elite is vs G League or NIL money?
I agree. I think G League fills that niche for players good enough to get invited. I think NIL provides the opportunity for good money and proven (although probably not quite as good as G league) development. I'm skeptical that Overtime Elite is a good choice for anyone compared to those two options.Personally, I think the G-League will win out over purely prep leagues for athletes who don't want to go to class. Jalen Green and Jonathan Kuminga have been excellent in the Summer League. For most rookies, the Sumer league is a step up in competition. For the guys who played on G-League Ignite, its probably a step down. I have a hard time believing the competition in these prep leagues is going to stack up to either.
Perhaps the NIL will prove lucrative enough to attract more of the top preps players back to the NCAA, but Green and Kuminga are torpedoing the argument that going straight to the G-League isn't good for development. They are playing more like second year guys than rookies.
Ignite isn't a guarantee any more than college. Daishen Nix is proof of that. Ignite had 5 guys straight from HS and 3 got drafted. One of those 3 was a 2nd rounder so that's not likely a guaranteed dealPersonally, I think the G-League will win out over purely prep leagues for athletes who don't want to go to class. Jalen Green and Jonathan Kuminga have been excellent in the Summer League. For most rookies, the Sumer league is a step up in competition. For the guys who played on G-League Ignite, its probably a step down. I have a hard time believing the competition in these prep leagues is going to stack up to either.
Perhaps the NIL will prove lucrative enough to attract more of the top preps players back to the NCAA, but Green and Kuminga are torpedoing the argument that going straight to the G-League isn't good for development. They are playing more like second year guys than rookies.
Ignite is for the kids who cant pass the GPA requirement of college teams.
Nothing can ruin college basketball for me, as long as we have a team representing Illinois and facing other teams representing their schools. The talent level could be similar to Saturday pick-up at the ARC and I'd still probably be just as emotional come March.No. Just a lot of hand wringing by people (understandably) nervous about change.
I don't know. If we start running out guys with my level of "talent", I would hope you would boo me off the court. I know I would.Nothing can ruin college basketball for me, as long as we have a team representing Illinois and facing other teams representing their schools. The talent level could be similar to Saturday pick-up at the ARC and I'd still probably be just as emotional come March.
Pretty good take. Kids in this league will not be seen by anyone but NBA scouts.Yeah, this might have been discussed elsewhere, but what is the business model that will allow Overtime Elite to succeed? Are they expecting to get TV money? I have no desire to watch that league. I watched about a half of Green and Kuminga’s first G League game and that was it. Sure these things will dilute talent in the college game a bit, but likely not enough to make a difference. And the large majority of college basketball fans have no idea who these players are.
Be careful what you ask for:Nothing can ruin college basketball for me, as long as we have a team representing Illinois and facing other teams representing their schools. The talent level could be similar to Saturday pick-up at the ARC and I'd still probably be just as emotional come March.
Looks like Hunter Dickinson when he plays against KofiBe careful what you ask for:
View attachment 11963
Looks like Hunter Dickinson when he plays against Kofi
UNC says, wait....Ignite is for the kids who cant pass the GPA requirement of college teams.
Can’t believe they changed their name to overtime elite. Will they still play football?UNC says, wait....
It's better than MSU Spartans Presented by Rocket Mortgage.Can’t believe they changed their name to overtime elite. Will they still play football?
We landed a big Bass.THIS MORNING! Bass says he's 100% committed!
Sounds good, but going back to school is really hard for many adults who have been away from that regimen for years. i hope someone keeps track of that stat. Free education is one thing, paying bills another..RE: Ignite/G League vs going to college….the draw is simple. These kids want to get paid for their talents while they have the ability to get paid for their talents. They aren’t thinking about long term, what happens when I can’t play anymore. The line of thinking is “I’ll make so much money while I play, that won’t matter”. And honestly, I don’t blame them one bit.
NIL is nice to help college compete, but G League is paying them, they don’t have to deal with classes AND they have a college ride built into the contract. Sure, they can’t play D1 college ball at that point, but it’s a free education later.
Yeah I don't think anyone is disputing that. I think the questions are around how these companies make any money to pay the kids since next to no one watches these leagues.RE: Ignite/G League vs going to college….the draw is simple. These kids want to get paid for their talents while they have the ability to get paid for their talents. They aren’t thinking about long term, what happens when I can’t play anymore. The line of thinking is “I’ll make so much money while I play, that won’t matter”. And honestly, I don’t blame them one bit.
NIL is nice to help college compete, but G League is paying them, they don’t have to deal with classes AND they have a college ride built into the contract. Sure, they can’t play D1 college ball at that point, but it’s a free education later.