Marquette 67, Illinois 66 Postgame

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#401      
With 10 minutes to go we were up 10. Why would he want to change anything? (Maybe not sarcasm but tongue firmly in cheek)

I get the instinct to pin it on Underwood. The outcome was bad, but holy cow we had the ball up one with 31 seconds to go… and lost.
What was the mythical winning adjustment Unerwood should have made to have this be a comfortable win?
Run a few actual sets.
 
#405      
Ok...so let's just put it out there for a vote..

More likely:

A. Curbelo has another game like this.

B. Curbelo has a double double.

C. You'll actually try cottage cheese with Lime Tostitos later this week.
There are so many things you can dip chips into. There's like a whole category of foods called "dips." Honestly, I'm done blaming Belo. I think we lost tonight as some kind of karmic punishment for this crime against all that is holy. Next time you're at the grocery store please buy some salsa. For the team.
 
#406      
A week of practice for this offense run with Belo is actually the best part.
Really hope you are right. We have to be able to run some semblance of an offense for those times Kofi is in foul trouble or needs a break, because the drive the ball into the lane without deviation offense is not a recipe for success.
 
#407      
A few things to note:
* There appeared to be at least two fairly regular B1G refs on the court, maybe 3. Anyway, they all 3 missed the kicked ball in the last seconds.
* Shaka kept working the refs after time outs and whenever they went by his bench; BU maybe needed to do more.
* Didn't see AC Anderson say much in the huddle during timeouts. AC Frazier and AC Alexander seemed to be more verbal with the team.
* Would it not have been ok for anyone of our AC's to suggest to BU to pull Belo in the last couple minutes due to all the turnovers and hero ball being played? Then again, maybe they did.
* When we were up 12, would have been nice to see either Goode or Melendez in there for a couple minutes to give our regulars a break.
* Bad loss, yet lots of lessons learned to carry forward into the rest of the season. We're still going to kick some serious butt in the future.
* Definite bright side - Kofi is back and hopefully Hutch soon to follow which will make all the difference in the world.
 
#408      
Ok...so let's just put it out there for a vote..

More likely:

A. Curbelo has another game like this.

B. Curbelo has a double double.

C. You'll actually try cottage cheese with Lime Tostitos later this week.
B - A - C

unless cottage cheese with lime Tostitos will ward off option A like my kryptonite cross keeps away vampires and Superman.
 
#412      
Would Kofi have made one point worth of difference? Probably.

But we made up for his absence really well, totally dominant on the glass and decent around the rim. It's those couple of BBV post ups becoming Kofi post ups that probably swing things.

But Marquette is terrible.

We're a double digit loss team, pretty much no chance of avoiding it.

We can't win a game against a good team with options of an out-of-control tilting Belo or a non-PG running the show. Easy pickings.
I personally think we would of won by double digits with Kofi. Everyone was being forced to go beyond what they normally would do (and for the most part fell on their faces) JMO.
 
#415      
Ok...so let's just put it out there for a vote..

More likely:

A. Curbelo has another game like this.

B. Curbelo has a double double.

C. You'll actually try cottage cheese with Lime Tostitos later this week.
All of the above, most likely - living the vida loca
 
#416      
What in the actual...
Is curbelo the most out of control player in the country, right now? Can you imagine him playing that way for Self, K, Few, or others? No sir, it'd be pine time! Said it last year several time on this board " if they don't take control of him, he will cost us more games than he'll help us."

Every run by Marquette started with poor decisions by Curbelo.

Very dissapointed in coaching staff to allow it from not stopping it over the past year. Yes, I know Chester and TA are new, but its not anything new.
 
#418      
Laughable.

Laughable ball security.
Laughable decision-making, especially by Curbelo.
Laughable officiating.

Unreal. That is not a good Marquette team. This is like when we s*** the bed against bad Mizzou teams.
We have this crew 25% of the year, so better make adjustments and not put it in their hands! Those guys like to blow the whistle, so expect it.
 
#419      

Cook

Richmond, VA
I love Underwood, but bad time management stuck out to me. 1) The timeout after CoHawk's putback dunk. Why? Maybe the guys needed a breather, but it was oddly timed and we had the momentum. 2) Why not call a timeout when we were up 1 with :31 left. You could get your best FT lineup in, run a solid inbounds play and get fouled. If not then, why not with :12 left to set up a play? (I get this allows the D to set up, but I would have taken my chances.

The "bench Curbelo" talk has got to stop. Please. You want Trent to play 40 minutes on a bum shoulder? DeMonte to bring the ball up? Plummer? No way. Ease up. It was bad. Real bad. But benching Belo is too public and for the fans only. It's not Coach's style. He'll get his licks from Underwood and Frazier in practice.
Wondering same on #1. On #2, BU said they practice end of game and know what to do, but CH and TF both said they haven't worked on end of game much at all so far this year. Hmmm, that's a head scratcher. And anyone watching the last minutes of the game could see we had gotten totally out of control, out of sync, and needed some coaching intervention. So even if it's not your normal preference, in this case tonight BU should have used the damn TO.
 
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Cook

Richmond, VA
What in the actual...
Is curbelo the most out of control player in the country, right now? Can you imagine him playing that way for Self, K, Few, or others? No sir, it'd be pine time! Said it last year several time on this board " if they don't take control of him, he will cost us more games than he'll help us."

Every run by Marquette started with poor decisions by Curbelo.

Very dissapointed in coaching staff to allow it from not stopping it over the past year. Yes, I know Chester and TA are new, but its not anything new.
They are actually doubling down on being A-okay with Belo gonna Belo
 
#422      
What are you talking about? No one wants to "unload" on Curbelo, but he was absolutely trash tonight.
Uh, this whole thread is people bagging on Curbelo, many of whom are happily confirming prior opinions that mostly involve being unhappy at the cut of his jib. When someone says “CAN WE STOP THIS NONSENSE ABOUT CURBELO PLAYING IN THE NBA?” that person clearly thought that Curbelo didn’t deserve the praise he was getting, and they’re using this game to make that known again.

He did not play a good game. But he’s been a magnet for criticism since the day he arrived, and not all of that criticism has been reasonable.
 
#424      
I think people forget that this offense is designed to revolve around Kofi. Take every awkward post catch by Payne and every soft finish by BBV and replace with a rim shaking dunk and I think we all know the outcome is decidedly different.

Should they have won somewhat easily anyway? Yes. (Indeed, they were on track to do so before they imploded.) Am I worried? Ask me after Cincy and (presumably) Arkansas.
 
#425      
With 10 minutes to go we were up 10. Why would he want to change anything? (Maybe not sarcasm but tongue firmly in cheek)

I get the instinct to pin it on Underwood. The outcome was bad, but holy cow we had the ball up one with 31 seconds to go… and lost.
What was the mythical winning adjustment Unerwood should have made to have this be a comfortable win?
The fact that they was up 10 with 10 minutes to go and lost after completely falling apart with zero adjustments is concerning to me. What adjustments should have been made I can't necessarily say, but I would hope something would have been tried as opposed to sitting on their thumbs hoping for a different outcome after the same insane plays for 10 minutes. Not saying he should have made some mythical change at the 10 minute mark, just some change within the last 10 minutes which he did not do and it ultimately cost them the game.
 
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