Polls & Bracketology - Illinois #12 in AP Poll

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WhiteHorseWings
LouHenson said:
Problem here is if Purdue is the 2 or 3 seed above Illinois. It used to be you could not play a “fellow” league school until the final 4. Obviously, with the size of the various leagues now that can’t be guaranteed. I believe you can play a fellow league school in the elite 8. But! They would never put the 2 top schools (seeds) from one conference in the same region on a collision path for the elite 8.

So what I am saying is that if Purdue gets the Chicago region, we will not get it. A school like Iowa or Indiana would be put there but not Illinois as let’s say a 3 with a potential match up with Purdue as a 2.

We need to root for Purdue to fall hard, like loose 2 more regular season games. Which could happen they have Rutgers today at home, but still have to go to both MSU and Wisconsin.
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We will be ahead of them when they lose to the badgers and we win out, beating them in the BTT
 
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Action10
LouHenson said:
Problem here is if Purdue is the 2 or 3 seed above Illinois. It used to be you could not play a “fellow” league school until the final 4. Obviously, with the size of the various leagues now that can’t be guaranteed. I believe you can play a fellow league school in the elite 8. But! They would never put the 2 top schools (seeds) from one conference in the same region on a collision path for the elite 8.

So what I am saying is that if Purdue gets the Chicago region, we will not get it. A school like Iowa or Indiana would be put there but not Illinois as let’s say a 3 with a potential match up with Purdue as a 2.

We need to root for Purdue to fall hard, like loose 2 more regular season games. Which could happen they have Rutgers today at home, but still have to go to both MSU and Wisconsin.
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The top 4 teams from each league, if they are on the top 4 seed lines, will be sent to different regions. Teams will be placed in their 1st and 2nd Round site according to geography within their seed line, which means you could end up with an 11 seed having a HUGE home court advantage against a 6 seed. 6 seed Texas Tech playing 11 seed SIU in Chicago in 2002 is an example that comes to mind.
After that, teams that played once during the season won't meet until at least the 2nd round. Teams that played twice during the season won't meet until at least the Sweet 16. Teams that played more than twice during the season won't meet until at least the Elite 8.
 
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Fighter of the Nightman
Action10 said:
The top 4 teams from each league, if they are on the top 4 seed lines, will be sent to different regions. Teams will be placed in their 1st and 2nd Round site according to geography within their seed line, which means you could end up with an 11 seed having a HUGE home court advantage against a 6 seed. 6 seed Texas Tech playing 11 seed SIU in Chicago in 2002 is an example that comes to mind.
After that, teams that played once during the season won't meet until at least the 2nd round. Teams that played twice during the season won't meet until at least the Sweet 16. Teams that played more than twice during the season won't meet until at least the Elite 8.
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So, the simple answer is that we want Purdue losses down the stretch for multiple reasons (Big Ten Championship, #1 seed in the BTT and getting them out of the Chicago Regional), but ideally we also don't want them to be a team we face in the BTT?
 
#205      
Bigtex
How is Houston so high in net (#4) while going 0-3 in quad 1?
 
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chrisRunner7
Bigtex said:
How is Houston so high in net (#4) while going 0-3 in quad 1?
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I think the same reason Iowa has a pretty good NET rating while just picking up its first quad one win against tOSU this week. NET includes efficiency stats... if you smoke a bunch of a bad teams and have good efficiency numbers, that's one explanation.
 
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DMWSuperFan
Fighter of the Nightman said:
Here's our resume, as it stands today:

Record: 19-7
"Official" Proj. Seed: 3-seed (before MSU win)
NET Ranking: #14
Q1 Record: 7-4 (at #19 IOWA, vs. #29 MICH, vs. #28 MSU, vs. #21 WISC, at at #72 NU, #44 IND, at #28 MSU)
Q2 Record: 4-3 (vs. #60 KSU in KC, vs. #57 ND, vs. #72 NU, at #100 MINN)
Q3 Record: 4-0
Q4 Record: 4-0
Road Record: 6-4
Neutral Record: 2-1

Remaining Games:
vs. #18 Ohio State (Q1)
at #29 Michigan (Q1)
vs. #83 Penn State (Q3) ... CANNOT lose this one!
vs. #19 Iowa (Q1)

Three amazing and winnable Quad 1 opportunities left. We could absolutely play ourselves into both a conference championship AND a 2-seed for the NCAAs by winning out and having a Purdue loss, IMO. 24-7 with 10 Quad 1 wins before the BTT is absolutely worthy of conversation for a 2!

Other Notes:
- Rutgers is at #76 right now ... if they move into the top 75, our home win vs. them becomes Quad 2.
- Northwestern is clinging to top 75 status by a thread, and we need them to stay there. Right now, our win in Evanston is Quad 1.
- Kansas State has snuck up to #60. If they can get into the top 50, our win in Kansas City vs. them becomes Quad 1.
- Penn State (#83) has an outside chance of sneaking into the top 75 with another upset (NOT VS. US!) and some help. If they do, a home win vs. them becomes another Quad 2.
- I think this is a good example why we want Missouri to always lose to us but never suck ... that is a free chance at a Quad 1 or Quad 2 neutral site win every year, and the Committee seems to value those. Makes sense, as they mimic Tournament environments.
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So Penn state plays us, Nebraska, northwestern, and Rutgers. A win over northwestern or rutgers probably knocks that team out of top 75 contention. Win over Nebraska doesn’t move the needle much. Only other game they have is at Maryland which MIGHT be enough with a Nebraska win too, but don’t think all 3 of those move to top 75 (Rutgers, northwestern, Penn state).

Ironically, Maryland losing to psu poses a risk to drop to a q3 loss, so might not do us a ton of help.
 
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