JFGsCoffeeMug
BU:1 Trash cans:0
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Just how bad is PSU? They're getting walloped by Nebby right now.
Pregame: Illinois vs Penn State, Thursday, March 3rd, 6:00pm CT, FS1
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Tonight - very bad. Next Thursday - who knows?
In a 3 way tie, do you know the next tiebreaker? If Purdue beats Wisconsin they would take 1 seed and both us and wisky would be 1-2
Here's the full tiebreakers I could find. If I'm reading this right, it would go to best record against 4th place team (at this point Ohio State, which would favor Wisky):
B. Ties Involving more than Two Teams:
1) Results of head-to-head competition during the regular season.
- a. When comparing records against the tied teams, teams will be seeded based on winning percentage among the group, even if the number of games played against the team or group are unequal (i.e., 2-0 is better than 3-1, but 2-0 is not better than 1-0 or 0-0). If all teams among the group are separated based on winning percentage, all ties are broken. If winning percentage among the group for any tied teams is equal, move to step b with those specific tied teams only (e.g. if there is a four-team tie, one team is 4-0, another is 3-1 and the last two are 2-2 among the group, the two teams that are 2-2 move to step b and the teams that are 4-0 and 3-1 assume the next two available highest seeds).
Note: Teams can be separated from the top, middle or bottom. - b. If a team or teams are separated from the group based on step a, seeding for remaining teams among the group is not determined by head-to-head record vs. the remaining teams, but rather by taking all remaining teams to next tiebreaker.
- a. When arriving at another pair of tied teams while comparing records, use each team's record against the collective tied teams as a group (prior to their own tiebreaking procedures), rather than the performance against the individual tied teams.
- b. When comparing records against a single team or group of teams, the higher winning percentage shall prevail, even if the number of games played against the team or group are unequal (i.e., 2-0 is better than 3-1, but 2-0 is not better than 1-0 or 0-0).
4) Coin toss conducted by Commissioner or designee.
Link: https://247sports.com/Article/Big-T...ojected-seeds-schedule-tiebreakers-182721036/
So if I’m reading number 2 correct - record vs Purdue would favor wisky (1-1 vs 0-2 for us) so we would be 3 and them 2?
No, it is W-L against the group. Purdue would be 3-1, while both Illinois and Wisconsin would be 1-2. So, Purdue first, then we compare Illinois and Wisconsin winning percentages against the 4th place team. If still tied, then 5th, etc
Okay so the second set of tie breakers skips over the first “group” since we already did that as a group, and goes to the next one down.
So only real chance we end up at 2nd seed would be if MSU beats OSU making that 4th place finish a group as well - as we are 2-0 vs msu. But think that would end up a wash with us losing to osu. Could get pretty complicated is may beats osu basically
I bet $5 somebody playing for PSU goes off on us for 31, but we win by 9
The Nebby I watched play today could certainly beat Wisky, that'd be interesting
Do you think that person will get all of PSU’s points?
so we win 40-31? doubt it
I expect them to play us tough, they'll be plenty mad at the drubbing they just got from Nebby, the bottom feeder
skyIdub
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I'm so flippin old and I've been celebrating the win in Ann Arbor all day and it's a different sport.....but I'm sure all the old-timers (and it pains me to call us old-timers) will never forget how confident we felt in 91 when Iowa came to Champaign with illinois No. 5 in the country only to watch Nick Bell and Hayden Fry completely embarass us. Don't think it's unfair to say Illini football hasn't recovered to this day.
If I live to 100 and every Illini-Iowa game since then, it will always be for payback for the Nick Bell loss, football, basketball, all of it. Andy Kaufmann, God bless you, you paid back part of that disappointment. So did Feliz and Kofi and winning the game just before the COVID shutdown. But couldn't possibly have more on the line than that '91 football game and Illiniois just wet the bed, well, obviously I still have issues
Will take at least 20 wins over iowa to make up for it, and here's hoping another one comes Sunday night.
I’d have taken it back in the Bruce days.
JFGsCoffeeMug
BU:1 Trash cans:0
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We need to win these last two games. I'm tired of repeatedly finishing one game back of the title, because we didn't take care of business. Can't go back and replay any games we've already lost, and can't guarantee Wisconsin picks up another loss, but we can win these last two games. Get it done, fellas.
If Purdue goes first it wouldn’t revert back to our head to head record vs Wisconsin?
Illinisteve25
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This is not a trap game just come out and impose your will from start to finish!
That makes too much sense. So no.
When does the B1G do anything the right way? LOL
Correct, Purdue is #1 in this scenario. However, in determining #2 you would go back to the first tie breaker, head-to-head, and we beat Wisconsin. If Purdue had won the conference outright and it was just Wisconsin and Illini for #2 that is the way it would work!
Or a two way tie. So, ideally, and I heavily stress that word "ideally" (or perhaps I should say "in a perfect Illinois basketball world") wouldn't it be better if Wisconsin beat Purdue and then Nebraska beat Wisconsin? Of course, I highly and emphatically doubt Nebraska beats Wisconsin especially at home but considering the upsets in the Big Ten (and last week for the 7 of the top 10 ranked teams) and how they say anyone can beat anyone on any given night ... Ah, speculation. Drives me crazy and creates too many sleepless nights this time of the year.
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