Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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#955      
Yes I don't think you see big minutes from Williams if he comes here. I also think you'll see more 20-30 minutes a game from everyone next year. No one playing the 35+ all the time like some did this year.

I for one like the sound of this. I know this past season’s squad was senior heavy, so Brad went with experience to eat up minutes. But I feel like talent depth past season could’ve allowed for more full court pressing during scoring droughts to mix up tempo and try to get a cheap bucket off a TO to spark offense.
 
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Central IL Illini

Springfield, IL
The lack of Podz off the bench is interesting? Should we read anything into that?

I still think his upside is tremendous.
I am sure I am in the minority, but I just didn’t see it with him like I did with Goode and RJ. Just looks like more of a mid Major guy, hopefully I am wrong.
 
#958      
So you are saying you are ok with someone who struggled shooting it and don't care if they shoot below 30 percent from 3? I am not. Clearly there are more ways to score but I'm tired of our guys being dared to shoot because they aren't efficient from outside. I saw enough of that with Jalen Tate and vs Houston recently.
Jamal Shead shot less than 30% this season and that didn't stop Houston from kicking our butts.
 
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Take that back-Podz likely back
I certainly hope so. But if a Wisconsin Mr. Basketball 4-star player that was also recruited by blue-bloods Kansas and Kentucky DOES decide to leave, I put that squarely on BU. After the win at IU, we had our moments, but still a 6-5 record to end the season. BU in mltho did not use his bench enough. Neither did the coach from Rutgers. A killer down the stretch.
 
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Jamal Shead shot less than 30% this season and that didn't stop Houston from kicking our butts.
I know Houston has performed very well the past couple seasons. I would hope that we possess a recruiting advantage and can go after athletic players that can do both and have an advantage in recruiting over the vast majority of schools including Houston. Whether we do or not remains to be seen. After the past couple years that seems to be the case and I'd hope before we take on a sub par shooter we at least try for a bit to find those that can defend and shoot the ball. Guys like RJ, Sky, and those others we are signing and recruiting. If we can't then ok.
 
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I certainly hope so. But if a Wisconsin Mr. Basketball 4-star player that was also recruited by blue-bloods Kansas and Kentucky DOES decide to leave, I put that squarely on BU. After the win at IU, we had our moments, but still a 6-5 record to end the season. BU in mltho did not use his bench enough. Neither did the coach from Rutgers. A killer down the stretch.
If Podz was ready to play BU would have played him. Maybe he relied a bit too much on his super-seniors, but those are guys he has been with for 5+ years. The narrative that not using the bench is a killer is also a falsehood. In fact, according to KenPom, here are the usage rates nationally for the final 4 teams' benches:

Kansas (296)
Duke (314)
Nova (323)
UNC (344)

For reference, Illinois (236) and Rutgers (342). It turns out that in order to win you need a really really good starting lineup. Almost all high-level tournament teams rotations shrink to 7 or 8 by tourney time.
 
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Crazy to see some posters wanting to abandon freshman that didn't immediately make an impact in their first year. The transfer rules have changed everything but let's not completely give up on player development. I grew up Badger fan and imagine some on this board would have wanted to drop Jordan Taylor, Jon Leuer, or Frank Kaminsky after their first year.
 
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illiniCA

DC Area
Crazy to see some posters wanting to abandon freshman that didn't immediately make an impact in their first year. The transfer rules have changed everything but let's not completely give up on player development. I grew up Badger fan and imagine some on this board would have wanted to drop Jordan Taylor, Jon Leuer, or Frank Kaminsky after their first year.
Does anyone *want* to abandon him. I think its just expectation that he might want to leave.
 
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Does anyone *want* to abandon him. I think its just expectation that he might want to leave.
Podz seems tough. If we sucked and were middle of the B1G pack and he didn't play I could see him leaving, with development on a successful team I'd hope he would want to stick around. Competition on a good team with good coaches will make him much better than more playing time on a !!!!!! team. I assume he wants the challenge because that's what he's showing with his extra work.
 
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I would just like to take a moment to commend each of us on being absolutely bat:poop: crazy about Illinois basketball. No real news to speak of, yet almost 40 pages worth of posts in 2.5 days. This takes heart, it takes dedication, it takes perseverance...it means being a #EveryDayGuy. Well done y'all. I'm sure you each have your own support system you'd like to thank, but I am indebted to my good friend Coffee -- couldn't do it without ya!!
 
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If Podz was ready to play BU would have played him. Maybe he relied a bit too much on his super-seniors, but those are guys he has been with for 5+ years. The narrative that not using the bench is a killer is also a falsehood. In fact, according to KenPom, here are the usage rates nationally for the final 4 teams' benches:

Kansas (296)
Duke (314)
Nova (323)
UNC (344)

For reference, Illinois (236) and Rutgers (342). It turns out that in order to win you need a really really good starting lineup. Almost all high-level tournament teams rotations shrink to 7 or 8 by tourney time.
The across the board stats are truly wonderful, but you are comparing apples and oranges. Each team has it's own identity. I was referring to the use of Illinois' use of the bench ... and all year long. It can come back to bite you late in the season, and it did. When Grandison suffered his shoulder injury in the Penn State game, BU was forced to bring in CoHawk, who very arguably won the game for us. BU is on record in the post game interview that (and I am paraphrasing) he didn't trust bringing in CoHawk. But he was forced to. The guy is a really good coach, but way too conservative. He will continue to learn and grow into a great coach.
 
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Govoner Vaugn Fan

New Orleans
I would just like to take a moment to commend each of us on being absolutely bat:poop: crazy about Illinois basketball. No real news to speak of, yet almost 40 pages worth of posts in 2.5 days. This takes heart, it takes dedication, it takes perseverance...it means being a #EveryDayGuy. Well done y'all. I'm sure you each have your own support system you'd like to thank, but I am indebted to my good friend Coffee -- couldn't do it without ya!!
I rely a lot on home brewed beer.
 
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skyIdub

Winged Warrior
I would just like to take a moment to commend each of us on being absolutely bat:poop: crazy about Illinois basketball. No real news to speak of, yet almost 40 pages worth of posts in 2.5 days. This takes heart, it takes dedication, it takes perseverance...it means being a #EveryDayGuy. Well done y'all. I'm sure you each have your own support system you'd like to thank, but I am indebted to my good friend Coffee -- couldn't do it without ya!!
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Brazile imo depends on Kofi. If Kofi is back, I would expect the additions to be something like: TSJ, Skyy, and Williams. Williams would be a depth piece and the other two would start.
Starting lineup would look like:
Skyy
TSJ
RJ
Coleman
Kofi
Bench:
Williams
Epps
Rodgers (he will likely play big minutes off the bench)
Goode
Dain
No Podz?
 
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