Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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The Sprouting Divot
IlliniCub 16 said:
Again, unless the insiders are falsely exaggerating or inflating the confidence the staff has about landing a recruit, I have no issues with how the insiders handle themselves on here. I love having them and what they bring.

It just seems like the staff members themselves need to be more cautious when relaying information to the insiders. That is my criticism.
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I recommend that you invent something else to wring your hands over.
 
#52      
SergioKittner
lstewart53x3 said:
A couple things to know about the information you’ll receive on this board:

1: A portion of the “insiders” are not insiders at all. They have no sources. They simply gather info on Twitter and premium boards and pass it along here as inside information. Another portion of the insiders not only have no sources, but are simply trolling the board and pass along wild guesses for fun. Only a small portion of “insiders” have true sources, whether that’s with the staff or a player/recruit.

2: Kids are kids. They change their mind. A lot. They also tell multiple coaches they’re in. So even if an insider has a source on the staff, there’s still a good chance the information they hear is wrong. That’s just part of it.

3: Message boards, like this, are mostly wild speculation. Some of it will come to fruition. Some of it won’t. If you only want “facts”, don’t come into the board, just read the front page. That’s real news.

4: Have fun with it. Treat the board more as entertainment than “news” and you’ll be a heck of a lot happier.
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What I like as much as anything is that now when we hear we are in with somebody we actually have the recent success, both on the court and off of it, to believe it to be true. Before we only believed because we hoped it would be true to end our desperation. Now we believe because we are landing these guys and throwing our weight around.
 
#53      
GForce
lstewart53x3 said:
A couple things to know about the information you’ll receive on this board:

1: A portion of the “insiders” are not insiders at all. They have no sources. They simply gather info on Twitter and premium boards and pass it along here as inside information. Another portion of the insiders not only have no sources, but are simply trolling the board and pass along wild guesses for fun. Only a small portion of “insiders” have true sources, whether that’s with the staff or a player/recruit.

2: Kids are kids. They change their mind. A lot. They also tell multiple coaches they’re in. So even if an insider has a source on the staff, there’s still a good chance the information they hear is wrong. That’s just part of it.

3: Message boards, like this, are mostly wild speculation. Some of it will come to fruition. Some of it won’t. If you only want “facts”, don’t come into the board, just read the front page. That’s real news.

4: Have fun with it. Treat the board more as entertainment than “news” and you’ll be a heck of a lot happier.
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This should be the official Recruiting Page statement, permanently pinned at top.
 
#54      
Illiniam1984
Remember recruiting is….
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Situation changes a lot.
 
#56      
Chuck Nuggets
sacraig said:
If Nance isn't making his decision 100% on where he feels is likeliest to prepare him for the NBA then he's a fool. If he doesn't come to Illinois, I'm sure it's because he feels some combination of playing time, position, or preparation make him less likely to make the NBA than at some other school.
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I get it. You're right, but I think it's easier said than done to simply switch in conference and play against your former coach and teammates if you left on good terms.
 
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hooraybeer
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IlliniwekKDR
I propose we set up a regulatory board for our insiders to keep things under control. We can call it the Board of Sources, or BS for short. I think that will perfectly sum up most of the information here.

/s for those that need it
 
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Illiniam1984
IlliniwekKDR said:
I propose we set up a regulatory board for our insiders to keep things under control. We can call it the Board of Sources, or BS for short. I think that will perfectly sum up most of the information here.

/s for those that need it
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Oldskoolkoach
IlliniCub 16 said:
While I know we all appreciate our insiders passing along the information we have, I find myself increasingly frustrated with the sources for our insiders.

Time and time again we are seeing "I was told he was a lock." We have all seen how fluid recruiting can be, it gets referenced and talked about all the time on these threads. So why do these assistant coaches or people close to the program seem to not realize that and jump the gun, calling kids locks when they clearly are not?

I know they are going on what these kids tell them, and a lot of the players aren't completely straightforward, but shouldn't they be more cautious about all of this by now?

Or is it not really a big deal for them either way because they are essentially anonymous and it doesn't matter much to them if they end up being wrong. It's the insiders passing the information along to us that have to deal with more of the fallout.

Again, this is no shade at the insiders at all, this is questioning the premature celebrations that seem to be coming sources themselves lately.
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Have you ever dealt with an 18-year-old kid that is listening to advice from those that mainly benefit them, the adult? The majority of these kids don't have a final say in where and what they actually do. These 18-year-old kids are telling almost everyone that reaches out to them what they think that coach or recruiter wants to hear because they don't have the skillset, or ability to decide for themselves. An 18-year-old kid does not want to upset or disappoint anyone that whom they have built any sort of relationship and that is difficult for some to understand.

I deal with kids every day and those kids don't want to admit to wrongdoing, because they have a relationship with me. They will tell others and give them the ok to inform me, but it's hard for them to look me in the eye and admit guilt.

Everyone here should be VERY thankful for the info we get because they don't have to share anything and more times than not they have been dead-on in the info they have given us. The coaches are just as surprised by decisions many times as the average Joe Schmoe is when someone goes elsewhere than the beloved.

I only really believe a couple of people on here and that is because time and time again they have been correct. Even on those we think are a done deal and go elsewhere, if you follow up on information about those kids, you'll see they had people handling things for them and the kid didn't get to choose his own path more times than not. Also, many times, those kids will end up in the transfer portal sooner than later and it's best to keep relations good down the road.

Thanks to the few for everything you share with us that you don't have to
 
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Illini034
Oldskoolkoach said:
Have you ever dealt with an 18-year-old kid that is listening to advice from those that mainly benefit them, the adult? The majority of these kids don't have a final say in where and what they actually do. These 18-year-old kids are telling almost everyone that reaches out to them what they think that coach or recruiter wants to hear because they don't have the skillset, or ability to decide for themselves. An 18-year-old kid does not want to upset or disappoint anyone that whom they have built any sort of relationship and that is difficult for some to understand.

I deal with kids every day and those kids don't want to admit to wrongdoing, because they have a relationship with me. They will tell others and give them the ok to inform me, but it's hard for them to look me in the eye and admit guilt.

Everyone here should be VERY thankful for the info we get because they don't have to share anything and more times than not they have been dead-on in the info they have given us. The coaches are just as surprised by decisions many times as the average Joe Schmoe is when someone goes elsewhere than the beloved.

I only really believe a couple of people on here and that is because time and time again they have been correct. Even on those we think are a done deal and go elsewhere, if you follow up on information about those kids, you'll see they had people handling things for them and the kid didn't get to choose his own path more times than not. Also, many times, those kids will end up in the transfer portal sooner than later and it's best to keep relations good down the road.

Thanks to the few for everything you share with us that you don't have to
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Post of the day
 
#72      
alamocityillini
hooraybeer said:
"Decision day is here for 247Sports No. 46 ranked prospect in the class of 2023. Tafara Gaparewill announce his college decision on June 6th at 3:00 PM ET, live on CBS Sports HQ.

The 6-foot-10 , 210 pound power forward who is a native of New Zealand is down to DePaul, Illinois, Maryland, NBL, UConn, OTE, Virginia Tech."

https://247sports.com/Article/Baske...ryland-NBL-UConn-OTE-Virginia-Tech-188407148/

Looks like DePaul's to lose, right? that was his only official visit at the end of May
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Tafara Gapare to DePaul.
 
#73      
drsmitty74
I thought this guy was a scUM fan. He's wearing an Illini Jersey in this video. At 4:37, you briefly see the block I logo at the neck line.

Gotta say, if this guy is not an Illini fan, he sure acts like one.

 
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drsmitty74
Check out the beginning of this. Guess I should have watched the video from the beginning and not just from my previous post.

Looks like we converted him and his podcast to the beloved!

 
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