dgcrow
- Kelso, WA
Why is that? Just askin'.
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IlliniFan85
- Colorado Springs, CO
He is a SoCal kid and the way he has talked about how he hates the "process" when the Cards were handling his first 2 years of his contract. He refused to sign the normal pay increases or whatever it is before arbitration. Then during arbitration refusing to accept amounts the Cards offered. Winning once and losing once. So I just feel he doesn't really want to be a Cardinal and wants whatever money he can get as a FA. And since he is from Cali, it just seems signs are pointing to him going there.
pruman91
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JMHO , but him growing up in LA and the constant bumping heads with the front office when he clearly was not ready for a start in the majors this year.....they appeased his request to leave the minors unready to pitch in the big leagues.......If you examine his full career with the Cardinals it does not , at least , to me seem his heart is in STL..........
I'm still fuming over the FB loss last night to actually give the numerous clues as to his intentions about his future....let's just say there have been many signs brought out by the STLtoday reporters in the past that has led me to this conclusion...................it would help immensely if he would stay off the IL and pitch like he has the first couple of years when he made it to the Cardinals.................I grew up when there was either loyalty or some would call it total control by the team , but I suspect Flaherty will indeed bolt to a west coast team at his earliest opportunity........It's either a gut feeling I have or a bad case of gas ......
Who knows nowadays what goes through this generation's thought's about staying with a team that has paid you when you couldn't perform and paid all your medical bills while you mended your injury.......
Illinifan85 described it much better than I did in a much shorter post .....kudo's Illinifan85..............
He's not wrong about the process for young players. I think he'll test free agency, which a lot of players do, and that probably means he doesn't end up here because our front office rarely offers the most money. I don't think he's going to command what it once looked like he would.
For better or worse the Cards never sign early long deals with home grown talent, which would mean giving up super cheap team control years but potentially getting a good deal long term. It's what the Braves did with Acuna and Harris and the Rays did with Franco. I'm sure we could've gotten Flaherty on one of those deals and the fact we never tried is I think part of the frustration on his end. In his specific case it's probably best we didn't (and I wouldn't be a fan of it generally for pitchers) but I do hope we consider adopting that approach with Walker when the time comes.
pruman91
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cubbies have a temporary lead of 3-2 after 2.................
I'm posting b/c I don't know why De Jong even takes a bat up to home plate.........He just struck out (again ) on a pitch at ground level...........I hope the Cardinals really try and move him to an American league team and wish him well.........With De Jong and Yadi in the lineup it's an uphill battle to work around their lack of production at the plate.....
I know De Jong has value as a fielder but Edman can handle SS just as well if not better than PDJ...........
My bad feelings from last night's FB game is still lingering and refuses to go away and I apologize if I seem snarky but a major leaguer should be able to lay off of pitches 6-12 inches outside and so low the ball is going kick up some dust.......
JMHO
I'm posting b/c I don't know why De Jong even takes a bat up to home plate.........He just struck out (again ) on a pitch at ground level...........I hope the Cardinals really try and move him to an American league team and wish him well.........With De Jong and Yadi in the lineup it's an uphill battle to work around their lack of production at the plate.....
I know De Jong has value as a fielder but Edman can handle SS just as well if not better than PDJ...........
My bad feelings from last night's FB game is still lingering and refuses to go away and I apologize if I seem snarky but a major leaguer should be able to lay off of pitches 6-12 inches outside and so low the ball is going kick up some dust.......
JMHO
BillyBob1
- Champaign
Yadi actually hit a ball hard! He almost was thrown out at home on a sac fly to left field with the left fielder hitting the shortstop and then throwing home.
Can't imagine there's many 40 year old major leaguers, especially catchers, that can run that well at this point.
pruman91
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JoJo Romero has been very impressive in his short stint with the Cardinals......I can't remember him allowing a hard hit ball yet.....Danny Mc. said he has given up only 1 hit in what is now 6 innings pitched..........
Cardinals defense is still sparkling with 4 double plays turned tonight.................................
Cardinals lead 8-4 going into bottom of the 8th....................
Cardinals defense is still sparkling with 4 double plays turned tonight.................................
Cardinals lead 8-4 going into bottom of the 8th....................
pruman91
- interviewing new NL's daily....I really really am
Cardinals beat the cubbies 8-4........................
Waino with the win.............
Edman , O'Neill and Goldie with homers..........
Yadi with a 3 RBI double.....................
Gallegos , Romero , Woodford and Pallante with excellent relief work..............
cubbies vs. Cardinals tomorrow @ 1:15 with the Cardinals going for the sweep............
THAT'S A WINNER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Waino with the win.............
Edman , O'Neill and Goldie with homers..........
Yadi with a 3 RBI double.....................
Gallegos , Romero , Woodford and Pallante with excellent relief work..............
cubbies vs. Cardinals tomorrow @ 1:15 with the Cardinals going for the sweep............
THAT'S A WINNER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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With all due respect you are wrong. MLB owners didn't arbitrarily come up with the current system. HIS union agreed to these terms.
Not too long ago St Louis would buy out the later stages of control for a cheaper deal long term. They got burnt a few times. I wish I could remember who but they didn't it 3-4 times about 6-8 years ago.
Just because the union agreed to it doesn't mean it's a good system. In fact, it suffers from the same problem many other unions have faced. Union leadership gets the best deal for those with seniority, at the expense of those without.
NEIlliniFan
- No longer in New England
Carlos Martinez signed a 5-yr/$51M contract with 2 add'l option years in 2017. Bought out 3 yrs of arbitration plus 2 years of free agency. It was a record for an arbitration-eligible player.
That's off the top of my head
pruman91
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Cardinals' Molina tells the truth as he and Wainwright march toward history
Rejuvenated catcher drives in three runs as he and ace right-hander beat Cubs and move one game from tying record for starts by battery mates.
Rick Hummel
Besides their being teammates for the past 19 seasons — one at Memphis and 18 in St. Louis — Cardinals right-hander Adam Wainwright proudly calls catcher Yadier Molina his brother.
“We’ve been through more than just baseball together,” said Wainwright. “Our families grew up together. We grew up together. I always thought I’d have grandkids before he retired. It’s a special thing.”
But, even brothers who are close can have their scuffles, verbal and otherwise. So it was after the Chicago Cubs’ fifth inning Saturday night at Busch Stadium.
Wainwright, pitching mostly on memory, had thrown his second double-play ball in two innings and had amassed only 82 pitches after five innings of the Cardinals’ 8-4 win over Chicago. But nine of those pitches had been struck for base hits, four runners had scored and Wainwright, as he later admitted freely, had nothing.
Manager Oliver Marmol told Wainwright that his night’s work was done. Wainwright said he needed to pitch the sixth to have one decent inning and feel good about himself.
“That’s what I told him,” said Wainwright. “I haven’t used any of my stuff all day. This inning I’m due. This next inning had got to be it, right?”
But, Wainwright, who at one point used the word “stink,” to describe his pitching, added, “I think Yadier told him, ‘Get this guy out of here.'"
This, in fact, basically was the case.
pruman91
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Quick hits: In autumn of his career, Cardinals icon Molina has spring in his step
Catcher's three-run double breaks game open and Wainwright gains 10th win, 8-4, over Cubs.
Rick Hummel
The battery powered by Adam Wainwright and Yadier Molina connected for its 323rd start Saturday night. That left the Cardinals’ duo one game shy of tying the record held for nearly a half century by Detroit’s Mickey Lolich and Bill Freehan.
While Wainwright, who did record two of the Cardinals’ four double plays at key times, lurched through five innings in an 8-4 win over the Chicago Cubs, Molina, who officially is in the autumn of his career, has displayed a new spring in his step once the calendar rolled over to September.
Posting his second multi-hit game in the first two games of the month, Molina broke open a one-run game by doubling home three runs in a six-run Cardinals third inning. He then stole third standing up and came home on a sacrifice fly.
The stolen base was the first by a catcher 40 or older since Arizona’s Henry Blanco did it in 2012, according to research by the National Baseball Hall of Fame.
Wainwright gained win No. 194 but, in the dugout, he clearly was agitated with manager Oliver Marmol for yanking him from the game after just 82 pitches. Molina interceded to put his arms around Wainwright before the latter left the dugout for the clubhouse. The victory was the 41-year-old Wainwright’s 10th of the season, giving him 12 double-figure win campaigns in his career.
The Cardinals, victors in 25 games of their past 32, ran their latest winning streak to three games and lowered their magic number to 23 for clinching the National League Central Division title.
After the Cubs tapped Wainwright for three runs in the first, Paul Goldschmidt hit a two-run homer in the home half of the first. And Tommy Edman and Tyler O’Neill homered back-to-back to kick-start the six-run third.
pruman91
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Cardinals notebook: Steven Matz, twice on injured list, is headed to Springfield
Left-hander, healing from torn knee ligament, will begin rehabilitation assignment on Tuesday.
Rick Hummel
When Cardinals left-hander Steven Matz suffered a torn medial collateral ligament in his left knee on an awkward attempt to field Joey Votto’s tapper July 23 in Cincinnati, it commonly was thought that Matz wouldn’t return the rest of the season.
Matz himself didn’t think so. “When it first happened, I didn’t,” he said, “because of the way it felt and when you tear a ligament ...
“But if you’re going to tear a ligament in your knee, that’s the best one because it does a really good of healing on its own.”
Now, some six weeks later, Matz’s season will continue on Tuesday in Springfield, Missouri, when he begins what promises to be a short minor league rehabilitation stint. He has impressed the staff in recent bullpen stints and manager Oliver Marmol has said Matz could help from the bullpen, especially because there probably isn’t enough time for Matz to condition himself as a starter.
“Every time, it’s just getting a little bit better,” said Matz, who is 4-3 with a 5.70 earned run average in 10 starts.
Matz, who made five relief appearances for the New York Mets in 2019-20, said he certainly was open to it. “So far, all the boxes have been checked,” he said. “We’re going to hit this one and see how it goes and think about this next one.
“Whatever I can do to get back and help in any capacity is ideal,” the 31-year-old Matz said.
His workout on Saturday consisted largely of fielding practice, and Matz said he felt “very little to no discomfort.”
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I can't believe they pitched to him, but I'm so glad they did.
Fitting that his final at bat against the cubbies was a HR.
If things go according to plan, Yadi and Waino can tie the all time battery starts record on Thursday vs. the Nationals and then would break the record on the following Wednesday vs. the Brewers.
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