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They will announce the time for our game against Howard on Friday morning I'm guessing.After they beat Arkansas when is next game on Saturday? what time?
They will announce the time for our game against Howard on Friday morning I'm guessing.After they beat Arkansas when is next game on Saturday? what time?
Good thing that this year there is no offensive scheme. Nothing to scout /sI think there is some truth to this, but if we look at the past two seasons the other teams have scouted us well and completely taken us out of our game offensively.
He has beat a 3 seed as a 14, and a 5 seed as a 12.Mussel>BU
Hope I’m wrong but BU hasn’t proven much come tournament time.
A lot of posters here are fair weather fansWe really hate our coach don’t we
I'm with you, but Illinois shoots a lot threes. They changing in a week? Let's hope.
That's one big staircase.Underwood is a step up from Gross.
They will announce the time for our game against Howard on Friday morning I'm guessing.
You mean ladder.That's one big staircase.
Wow, not taking anything away from Arkansas' great postseason success the last two years, but they have indeed had some luck in their paths. In 2021, they got to play #15 seed Oral Roberts in the Sweet Sixteen and won by two. In 2022, they got to play #12 seed New Mexico State (after barely surviving #13 seed Vermont, something we know all about!) in the First Round and won a super close game. Major props for knocking off #1 seed Gonzaga last year, but it's still interesting.He has beat a 3 seed as a 14, and a 5 seed as a 12.
Eh, I'd say more completely neurotic and totally lacking in any self confidence as an Illini fan, haha. To me, "fair weather" indicates they abandon the team when we aren't doing well and maybe even root for someone else ... even the biggest "Chicken Little" Illini fans are damn loyal, IMO.A lot of posters here are fair weather fans
Oh my God, can you imagine? Given KU fans wanting to sell their tickets, the fact that we just beat a good Arkansas team in this scenario and that the game would be on as Saturday, Des Moines would be Vegas 2.0 here, IMO.They will announce the time for our game against Howard on Friday morning I'm guessing.
And if we did get to play Howard, we would obviously lose, because it's Illinois.Oh my God, can you imagine? Given KU fans wanting to sell their tickets, the fact that we just beat a good Arkansas team in this scenario and that the game would be on as Saturday, Des Moines would be Vegas 2.0 here, IMO.
A guy can dream! Now that I think about it, the true Illini scenario would be for our Fake Comeback to come up two points short against Arkansas after we have already seen the result come through that KU was stunned and lost, and Arkansas strolls to the Sweet Sixteen. I'll see myself out.
You mean ladder.
We really hate our coach don’t we
It seems like net rating is exactly as expected. Why is that underachieving?I've never seen an underachieving Illini team put it together and go deeper than expected in the NCAA Tournament, nobody has. But it's theoretically possible since other teams do it, so here's to hoping it's our turn.
Underachieving after our wowza start, I think he means.It seems like net rating is exactly as expected. Why is that underachieving?
Good work!That stat about A&M coming back without any 3-pointers is crazy ... and it made me want to look at our games vs. Power Five opponents this year. In these games, we averaged 7 3-pointers made on 24 3-point attempts for a percentage of 29%.
FEWEST 3-POINT ATTEMPTS
W 78-60 at Minnesota: 5-16 (31%)
W 75-66 vs. Michigan State: 6-18 (33%)
W 97-87 vs. Michigan (2OT): 5-18 (28%)
W 79-69 vs. Wisconsin: 10-19 (53%)
MOST 3-POINT ATTEMPTS
W 73-44 vs. Syracuse: 11-39 (28%)
L 93-71 vs. Missouri (St. Louis): 7-31 (23%)
L 72-60 at Ohio State: 6-29 (21%)
W 72-56 vs. Nebraska: 5-29 (17%)
HIGHEST 3-POINT PERCENTAGE
W 79-69 vs. Wisconsin: 10-19 (53%) ... almost all CoHawk
W 79-70 vs. UCLA (Las Vegas): 12-25 (48%) ... almost all Shannon
W 10-23 vs. Texas (NYC): 10-23 (43%)
L 80-65 vs. Indiana: 8-19 (42%) ... goes to show what TJD did to us!
LOWEST 3-POINT PERCENTAGE
W 72-56 vs. Nebraska: 5-29 (17%)
W 69-60 vs. Ohio State: 5-28 (18%)
L 72-60 at Ohio State: 6-29 (21%)
L 93-71 vs. Missouri (St. Louis): 7-31 (23%)
Some pretty telling things here:
- In the four games where we shot the most threes, we did not shoot above our season average ONE time. Our only two wins were at home against objectively bad teams, and the other two outings were embarrassments.
- In the four games where we shot the least threes, we shot above our season average in every single one except for Michigan. Wisconsin was pretty clearly a fluke shooting-wise, but recall the wins against MSU and at Minnesota; they were two of our best performances all year, and some of the few times our offense seemed to really flow.
- All in all, when we take fewer than 24 3-pointers (below our season average), we shoot 33%. When we take more than 24 3-pointers (above our season average), we shoot 28%. Obviously BU and the staff analyze this way more than my novice Excel exercise, but it's pretty clear he's right that it is likely the TYPES of threes we are taking in the games where we are jacking them up the most often.
- We took more threes than our season average in every one of our worst 3-point percentage games. Conversely, we took FEWER than our season average in all four games where we shot it the best.
- With that said, there isn't a huge correlation with wins on either end of this spectrum, which probably doesn't surprise us. We can get hot from three and beat REALLY good teams, or we can (wisely) not rely on the three and beat teams in other ways that suit our strengths. It's when we ARE NOT hot from three and yet keep taking a lot of them that we have looked our absolute worst.
One last thing to maybe give us some optimism!
Away Games: 70-262 (27%);
Home Games: 74-234 (32%)
Neutral Games: 44-126 (35%)
Even against PSU in the BTT, we shot better than our season average on fewer attempts than we average. Here's to hoping this team just likes to play in a neutral gym on a big stage, PSU is actually really good right now and we play loose/relaxed against Arkansas and know that the way to beat them is NOT to shoot too many 3-pointers ... especially contested ones!
Tv will determine times based on matchupsAfter they beat Arkansas when is next game on Saturday? what time?
We've got some morons in these parts. Not as many as Iowa City but into all good things, a few turds will drop.We really hate our coach don’t we