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So who goes to KSU....maybe the FAU guy?
Illini92and96
- Austin, TX
Well it depends if you are looking for Illinois basketball content or social media content. This is my social media. I don’t do Facebook or twatter because it is either too negative or mindlessly irrelevant. I much prefer this negativity and irrelevant banter because it’s directly tied to something I care about.A couple of observations here…
1. Is it wrong if I only want a read Post from 4040, lville, or DB and skip all other posts??
2. I have inferred from reading this thread and the Illinois basketball thread that BU will be back next year. I say that because, It seems like from posts from our insiders we may already have a transfer coming in for next year. Normally that doesn't happen unless the coach is going to stick around.......
With whatever happens I can continually say that Loyalty is never boring
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Ah yes, a coach taking a massive jump up based on one tournament run, famously a good idea.
May’s been at FAU for awhile too, where on earth did this come from?
Mr. Tibbs
- southeast DuPage
I saw sweaty Teddy at the AH in 1980 or 1981.
Lol yeah lets pack up as a team and leave Boca Raton for Ped State. No thanks.
$ talks though
$ talks though
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Yeah his name is Deion Sanders
You’re right in general, though there is the counter factor of NIL deals being with team-specific boosters so there is some transaction friction in that sense.
Mr. Tibbs
- southeast DuPage
yea , I was referring to hoops when over half the starting lineup could come with a coach
no precedent for it at prep , college or pro level
So
So Pru and I aren’t the only two old rockers on here lol
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Three of Fairleigh Dickinson’s starters, their three top scorers against Purdue, were transfers from their first year head coach’s prior job at D2 St Thomas Aquinas.
There’s always a precedent
The question of how many players come with a coaching candidate will increasingly become a thing though, you’re right.
I suppose it depends what "greener pastures" means. Only two of those on this list actually left for what they considered a better job, and those jobs were an NBA gig and Kansas. The rumored jobs BU was/is open to leaving for are not on that level.Henson 21 years
Kruger 4 years
Self 3 years
Weber 9 years
Groce 5 years
Avg 8.4
That UW would leave for "greener" pastures is not exactly unprecedented, particularly to a school where he has emotional connectons.
His pasture is pretty green right where he is at
The carousel won't start to spin, maybe, until Texas names a coach. If it is Rodney Terry, there will be minimal spinning. Some insiders think Terry will get the job, others say no. I'm personally on the side of no way I'd hire Terry if I were Texas. He has a 10 year record as a head coach, 7 were mediocre at Fresno State, 3 at UTEP were not good. If Beard were fired in the offseason and Terry had to step in for the full year, that would be one thing, but Beard put this team together. He trained them in the offseason, and he coached them for the first 1/3 of the season. Terry has done a phenomenal job since then, but this is a very experienced and talented team. If you hire Terry and find out he's the coach he has been over those 10 years, then you set your team back and made your next hire more difficult.A couple of observations here…
1. Is it wrong if I only want a read Post from 4040, lville, or DB and skip all other posts??
2. I have inferred from reading this thread and the Illinois basketball thread that BU will be back next year. I say that because, It seems like from posts from our insiders we may already have a transfer coming in for next year. Normally that doesn't happen unless the coach is going to stick around.......
With whatever happens I can continually say that Loyalty is never boring
So as Texas comes down to the wire two things could happen. They could say well the fans are happy, we can take the easy route and save some money by going with Terry, or they could say I'm gonna throw stupid money at Calipari, Oats, Musselman, Tang, etc. However, barring a Self retirement for health reasons, the Texas hiring will determine how much the carousel spins.
One thing to keep in mind. Tang is not going to be at Kansas State long. When you really look into what he did, it was one of the more impressive coaching jobs I've seen. First year with the team, 4 starters are transfers new to the team. He was able to win 26 games, get KSU ranked as high as #5, and make an Elite 8 right out of the gates. In Weber's last 3 years combined at KSU he only won 34 games. So Tang identified and assembled a team, got them to gel, coached them up, and had a huge turnaround season. Assuming he doesn't fall off the cliff next year, if he doesn't leave KSU this season, it won't be long. Meaning we are going to be having these conversations year after year about Underwood.
He’s now won 101 games in 5 years. So that means 66 in 4 years before this(I think they’re 35-3 now)? I can’t pretend to know their roster situation and how many are transfers or his dudes from the start, but maybe he actually built the program and this is the payoff year.
Overall, for a smaller school, his team is not untalented. They have real athletes, enough handling and shooting for multiple guys outside to be dangerous, and 7 footer who is somehow both equally clumsy and a pretty decent high-low post and perimeter facilitator.
From a basketball perspective, they also appear to cut FAST and move the ball FAST so they have multiple threats working at once.
The caveat will be that maybe the refs jobbed Memphis in round 1, and they played a 16 in round 2. And matchups matter, but Kansas st is objectively better than any other team they could have matched up with so far. Sometimes it’s as simple as, it all comes together at the right time.
University of Wisconsin is leaving our program?Henson 21 years
Kruger 4 years
Self 3 years
Weber 9 years
Groce 5 years
Avg 8.4
That UW would leave for "greener" pastures is not exactly unprecedented, particularly to a school where he has emotional connectons.
His pasture is pretty green right where he is at
sacraig
- The desert
Well we DO own them.
I was talking rent not buying. No sticker shock from me. I lived in San Jose for 25 years.
btw if you look on zillow you will find plenty of houses for rent for less than $3000/month still even after the crazy runup in prices. Which is what I said in the OP. Anyway, depends how you want to spend your money. I wouldn't buy in the valley at these prices. I retired and moved to a cheaper location. $2.5M would buy alot in another area.
DeonThomas
- South Carolina
They went 31-3 and were top 20 in kenpom and top 15 in NET. Would hardly be based on just the tournament run.
I believe the staff will get a change. I have heard that things will be clearer in the next few weeks.
Just for kicks, here is a blast from the past...
Post in thread '2016 Coaching Carousel' https://www.illinoisloyalty.com/post/2016-coaching-carousel.23086/post-1205033
Post in thread '2016 Coaching Carousel' https://www.illinoisloyalty.com/post/2016-coaching-carousel.23086/post-1205033
sacraig
- The desert
I don't think I ever noticed the resemblance.
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