Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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When Bret Bielema took over the football program after the truncated Covid year where everybody got that freebie season, he invited (and got Josh Whitman to stump up the funds for) every single player on the roster to return on scholarship and have another go at it under the new staff, together, as a group. He Creaned not one single guy, spent his political capital getting a scholarship for the Desmond Dan's of the world rather than trying to burn everything down as fast as he could to get "his" players in.

A totally different approach than most new college football coaches take. And this offseason? We have the fewest departing portal players in the Power Five.

Roster stability can beget roster stability. Roster churn can beget roster churn.
You make very good points, but where I stray is that comparing our football program's expectations when BB first got here vs where our basketball program currently is with BU is night and day.

We were not and still to a point are not an overly attractive football school. We're obviously much better and continuing to evolve, but a 6-5 season and a bowl game had people jumping for joy. BB's only option was to go with what he had. That said, our last four QB's have been portal guys, right? (Peters, Sitkowski, Devito, now we'll see what the Ole Miss kid brings). The more the football program wins, the higher the expectations will be, the more attractive the school is to higher level recruits.....then the churn and burn starts. It's inevitable. We're a couple of good seasons from BB being deeply involved in the portal.

BU has created expectations, he is involved with elite recruits, he lands high level recruits, we are definitely one of the haves vs have nots when it comes to NIL money, we're a portal destination because of that money and he's working with a scholarship max of 13(??). His options with how he can operate is ten times that of BB. I can't reiterate it enough that BU has created an environment where winning is the only option and we're not talking about 20 wins and an NCAA Tournament appearance. That wasn't good enough. People were very upset. Short of being in the top 3 in the conference and a Sweet 16...some deem it as unacceptable.

We are talking about two totally different situations. If BB has the football program consistently winning 9 games.... we'll see if his approach changes, as the options increase and the pressure to win increases.
 
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Amazing both Braun and Ogbaji were outside the top 100. You’d think the way some fans post that wouldn’t even be remotely possible to win a title with such players.
That's crazy to think about. Its encouraging but this is also why losing Miller, curbelo, RJ Epps, and Clark hurt so much. Having top 50/100 guys stay around and develop can lead to winning teams via chemistry and talent.

I know those cases have many variables and that's today's landscape but we all remember the dark times when getting even one those top 100 were rare so getting and losing them is another pain.
 
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Oh look I don't want to denigrate the guy, and sure, perhaps injury problems were a major contributor to his struggles.

But you all remember that season. After the game where BP3 poured 43 on Ohio State we were 15-3 (4-1) and ranked #22 in the country. Then the implosion began, and of course was memorably punctuated by Weber's "mollycoddling" speech after the loss to Purdue.

That was an 8 game stretch. Maniscalco played in 7 of them, between 12 and 34 minutes in each. His combined total across that 7 game stretch was 1-18 shooting for 3 total points.

It was a rough, rough time. The comments were not nice in spaces like this.
The day after that game was the day that I discovered Illinois Loyalty. A friend was telling me about the post-game press conference. When I got home from work that day, I got online to search for the video and clicked on a link to this site. Been on here every day since!
 
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I don't really love the QG add assuming Hawkings comes back. He feels redundant with some of our other pieces. Seems like Hansberry will never see the floor as well, and there were talks of him possibly being a contributor right away not that long ago.
 
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Not playing the young guys guarantees something. That you won't have experienced old guys the next year.

It's a balancing act. There are competing interests. The right answers aren't obvious.

I think, I predict, we're a little too far to the "stuff the roster with one-offs" end of the spectrum.

I'm also a little surprised more effort hasn't been made to find a transfer with multiple years of eligibility, they are out there.

Not true. Just because someone isn't playing, doesn't mean they aren't gaining experience. Someone like Amani or DGL could play very little this upcoming year, but improve a ton, and be big minute guys next year.
 
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