Tough for me to understand this recruiting. More like Groce unbalanced recruiting. Like bringing a knife to a gunfight even though it is a bright shiny sharp one.
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
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You know, we’re all operating under the premise that, to add one more player, as has been suggested, one must go. But that’s not necessarily the case.
Now I am in no way suggesting this is in the works or that it would even be considered, but what’s to stop an NIL partner from offering, say, Coleman Hawkins $500k, PLUS cover his tuition, books, boarding, etc, thus freeing up a scholarship? At some point, some school will test this premise. Might as well be Illinois.
Now I am in no way suggesting this is in the works or that it would even be considered, but what’s to stop an NIL partner from offering, say, Coleman Hawkins $500k, PLUS cover his tuition, books, boarding, etc, thus freeing up a scholarship? At some point, some school will test this premise. Might as well be Illinois.
Tacomallini
- Washington State
Knowing nothing about running a D1 program, I’m curious how IL staff would’ve vetted Williams’ health situation and readiness to play. I think (?) we would’ve read about it here if he was on campus for workouts/visits. Would staff go and have him workout wherever he resides before signing? Serious, knowledgeable answers appreciated. Smart aleck responses expected. And appreciated, if funny.
So Geoff leaves and we get a package deal?
Unbalanced or undertalented? Getting too many wings was a problem. Getting wings that couldn't dribble and shoot was a bigger problem.
I'm about 30 years older than you and in 100% agreement. I just don't understand it.
I could be wrong but I believe Arkansas has been openly doing just that this off-season and I don’t think anyone has tried to stop them
I’m two years older than you and don’t know how this applies to Illini basketball
Not a good enough one.
A lot of politics and marketing that goes into McDAA. Hope we can work this behind the scenes.
How about we stop giving scholarships to players that have no business ever seeing the floor? I don’t think the number of scholarships will ever keep us from recruiting but I don’t see the benefit of adding some of these obscure European kids when there’s always a chance of getting a mid year recruit these days.
How many times do you have to say it? 4.3 assists per game.
He's also the same guy that said there was a 0% chance we got Shannon and Coleman both back
Tell Uconn that
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Last I checked we're Illinois, right?
Williams is not getting that waiver, the question of him being a point guard is moot.
Williams is not getting that waiver, the question of him being a point guard is moot.
He's very likely going to get it. Did not step on the floor last year
Honestly (I’m supposed to say that right?), was this the outcome I was looking for? No, but I wasn’t sold on RayJ either. Guy was playing at Toledo, you can’t tell me there wouldn’t be questions with him also.
All the self-proclaimed experts on here can worry about not having a PG, but at the end of the day, while the staff isn’t infallible, they have more expertise than you. If they think Williams can fill the PG role, then I’m going to trust them until the season starts and I can see.
None of us know how this will work out. I’d guess a lot of throught Skyy was going to be amazing and didn’t expect a lot from Andre Felix. I’m sure I’ll get roasted for this post, but I don’t see the point of freaking out and making judgements before we’ve seen how it will work out.
All the self-proclaimed experts on here can worry about not having a PG, but at the end of the day, while the staff isn’t infallible, they have more expertise than you. If they think Williams can fill the PG role, then I’m going to trust them until the season starts and I can see.
None of us know how this will work out. I’d guess a lot of throught Skyy was going to be amazing and didn’t expect a lot from Andre Felix. I’m sure I’ll get roasted for this post, but I don’t see the point of freaking out and making judgements before we’ve seen how it will work out.
We all know the PG position was a disaster for us last year. If the roster stays as is, do people feel more confident about our PG play next year than they did going into last year? I think people were excited about Clark and Epps as PGs more than they are excited about what is going on now and that scares me.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
I understand the argument.
But two things:
1. It's the NCAA and we're Illinois
2. Nobody is blind to the reality that Williams went to ISU for cash and is now coming to UI for more cash, exactly what this transfer crackdown is aiming to mitigate, kids just packing up for the highest offer every year.
I don't think the rule will hold long term, but this is what they're trying to prevent.
To play devils advocate he isn’t here to score.
You literally started the Harmon may look elsewhere rumors.
To further your point, UConn had a PG who *checks notes*
Is 6’5 and transferred from ECU (a known basketball powerhouse)
He shot an electric 32.4, 26.2 and 33.3 from 3 before transferring to UConn. His overall FG% was even more earth shattering at 39, 34.8 and 43.5
But we are spending pages upon pages poo poo’ing getting Williams because he “can’t shoot.”
Joel Goodson
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Maybe you’re right. Maybe that’s the strategy that will win out…the way the wind is blowing…who knows?
I’m not sure what Euro guys you specifically have in mind…but I don’t think I’d wanna say: never-ever to Europe. I mean Giorgi was certainly a success story. Matic Vesel and Perrin not so much. The latter two…certainly had the makings/potential of being something. They’ve been a mixed bag…but you can see the thought process there…with both at least. And know Moretti too. HUGE upside IMO
I don’t know what the answer is. But it wasn’t long ago that this staff proudly talked about putting emphasis on the developmental side of the program.
Which I thought was great. I don’t think you wanna lose that…at least not completely.
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