Funny you would say that. Just got off the gulf. Got caught in a pop up thunderstorm as did a dozen or so other boats. I definitely was looking for some place, any place to tie up.
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread
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Not sure on "clearly best coach..."....but he is HOF good and has recently Nat Championship...last year.
The investigation and Asst Coaches should have done him in a few years ago...but he has a ton of respect in NCAAB world....and his success may have gotten him some grace with investigation.
In his $90,000 suburban?
They failed the players by not dealing with the coach that they chose to go play for?
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Currently the best coach is Izzo because of the sustained superior performance. He takes teams that are not good further than what seems possible but even some of his good teams underperform
Self is a good coach but is far from the best. His KU teams have dominated the Big 12 and some of those teams got bounced early
Currently the best coach is Izzo because of the sustained superior performance. He takes teams that are not good further than what seems possible but even some of his good teams underperform
Yeah I’m gonna have to go with Bill. Dudes ran some of the best offense since he’s been in the game
Same. But can't go wrong with either. Hot take but I'm taking both of those coaches over K, Roy, or Cal.
He's underrated on the bench side of things for sure.
As to Izzo, in college it's about the whole package. Izzo gets the guys he needs to run his system and does very well. But his ceiling is probably a little lower than Self because his recruiting is not as good, mostly because he's a lot more selective about who he gets.
BU needs to do what Izzo has done. Find more guys who will play to they system and culture that he wants. My concern is that for all the talk from BU, he either doesn't really know what culture and system he wants or he's not really capable of evaluating guys for his system.
Who would place above him? Guys won the conference 95 percent of the time he’s coached. Has two national titles. So many guys in the argument have left the game recently.
I guess the question with guys like Krissa, Jesse Edwards, and Raequan Battle is when does the transfer officially take place? Is is when they sign their financial aid agreement? Or is it when they attend class?
For the guys that all committed to WVU this offseason. I assume they're likely on campus but haven't attended a class or played a game for WVU. Couldn't they argue that they haven't technically transferred to WVU yet and decommit?
For example with the Illini, Harmon committed months ago but there have been rumors of him not getting in academically he could still technically transfer to a different school and play immediately.
Sidenote: Battle can really play though his play style is very similar to Shannon so not really a roster fit.
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Yeah, he’s pretty slick. Good stuff. Play 2 is helluva wrinkle/counter IMO
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Question for the few in the loop. We have Morez coming in next year. Guys like that don’t come to Champaign often, is that really a player BU would be willing to walk away from if he feels the heat getting too hot? Seems like that would be a kid that could save your behind and you can’t assume TA is following you to “greener pastures”.
I only ask, because a few have alluded to BU’s agent sniffing around this past offseason.
I only ask, because a few have alluded to BU’s agent sniffing around this past offseason.
I really like Morez, but he’s not a top 10-20 recruit. He’s about where Ayo, Miller, Clark, and Kofi came in. Very good, but not particularly unusual during BU’s tenure.
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the counter is that he's had a lot of thoroughbreds (and, yes, I fully get that he landed them. counter to that is the cream finds blue bloods very alluring)
Yeah, I completely agree with you. That incident was probably the darkest day for the program and something the team and Weber was never able to recover from. I too can only think "what if" regarding that terribly sad event. Jamar was the purest shooter I've seen in an Illini uniform, and the deadeye shot Bruce's later year teams seemed to be lacking. I mean for whatever posters think of Bruce's teambuilding, can you imagine that should have been 2009 team?
PG: Chester Frazier (Sr)
PG: Demetri McCamey (So)
SG: Jamar Smith (Sr)
PF: Mike Davis (So)
C: Mike Tisdale (So)
6th Man: SG Trent Meacham (Sr)
Instead we lose Jamar Smith, a high volume 48% 3pt shooter as a freshman, and B10 All defense Chester Frazier breaks his wrist before the tourney. That team could've gone on a deep deep run. But sad reality is all you get when you get behind the wheel drunk and almost kill a teammate. That moment was indeed the beginning of the end of the Weber tenure, and the fall of our team from grace, all due to a decision that never should have happened. What if indeed.
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Yeah, he’s pretty slick. Good stuff. Play 2 is helluva wrinkle/counter IMO
I don't think he really does anything revolutionary on the offensive end. He really runs a fairly simple offense and puts an extremely talented group of players on the floor that are able to execute it.
With regards to Kriisa, that's something the donors and Guardians almost certainly would get behind, no? If so, Brad should start driving the Brinks truck filled with RayJ NIL money and maybe a little extra to his house right now. Kerr would fill a need in the absolute worst way for us. Insiders, what's the buzz here? We have a decent shot?
I like Morez and it seems like he's trending up but his high ranking is sitting at 43 overall. Illinois is in range for recruits in that range all the time.
Hansberry is 67, Clark 33, Rodgers 59, Epps 72, Miller 33, Curbelo 47, Kofi 46, Ayo 32. Plus a number of other top 100 recruits like RJ, Goode, etc.
Brad has basically been getting similarly ranked talents in nearly every recruiting class.
Ryllini
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I was just quickly scrolling thru, I thought he was uniformly in the low 20’s and moving up, I’ve see him anywhere from 24-57. I stand corrected.
Brad us the only coach in America with recruiting connections. Good point.
Tough to say “far from the best” and then cite one example because the teams he’s responsible for assembling go farther then their regular season might predict.
Also two championships to one is not nothing.
If he needs an old truck, he can drive mine for however long it takes. AC, radio, 4WD, heater, windows all work. Runs fine. Good tires. I will need a similar truck while he has mine.
That was before my time in school so maybe it was different but I always thought it was weird that they lived in Savoy. Lived next to a bunch of football players and other athletes and it was extremely rare for anyone other than grad students to live off campus.
Obviously, not trying defend the actions or anything but living on campus and within walking distance of everything you could need goes a huge way in preventing college kids from getting behind the wheel while intoxicated. It isn't exactly uncommon for 19 year olds to make very poor decisions even while sober.
You ignored him without ignoring him...weird.
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