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I don’t …
Louisville has already been kicking the tires on the top names on their list … Mick Cronin, Jerome Tang, Brad Underwood, Sean Miller, Dusty May, Chris Holtmann …
Now - who do I think they end up with ???
chrisRunner7
- Spokane, WA
I just went down a rabbit hole looking that up a few minutes ago.
His uncle (Gerald Gillion) was an assistant coach at Samford when Cardet committed to Samford. His uncle got the Chicago State head coaching job after one year and Cardet followed him in the transfer portal.
Calling Louisville a dumpster fire wouldn't be doing dumpster fires justice. Why would a coach from any established power conference program even consider taking that on?
Northwestern beats #1 (at the time) Purdue. Loses to Chicago St at home and Mississipi St who lost to Southern.
That's quite the baffling resume.
That's quite the baffling resume.
blackdog
- Champaign
Joel Goodson
- ties will be resolved
that Weingarten tweet was from 2020. Initially, I thought it was present-day, hence the "whoa" nature of my post. I still expect us to kick the tires.
I don't understand people's take on the Louisville job. Yes it's a dumpster fire. Seems like in this day fixing that isn't so hard if you have cash, including NIL.
I'd fully expect them to be able to get a good coach. No idea what AD is like so that could change things.
I'd fully expect them to be able to get a good coach. No idea what AD is like so that could change things.
Ryllini
- Lombard
I think they’d want Mick the most. Don’t know his buyout structure, but how long until he is back in these parts of the country?
MDchicago
- Lake Norman NC
Small sample size?
It’ll be Jerome Tang, right?
That's probably a stretch. Wisconsin and tOSU both have some good wins and are ranked very close to us in Kenpom/Torvik.
But the B1G gets very messy after the top 4. There is a very real chance the B1G only gets 4 in.
drsmitty74
- Rochester
Of course, then BU to KSU narrative reignited, along with Miller to the beloved. Rinse and repeat.
Ohio State has 1 good win against Alabama. They lost to a good A&M team and Purdue. But they also lost to Penn State.
Wisconsin has been 30 pieced twice now..
Until Illinois gets blown out or losses a game they shouldn't I'd put us head & shoulders over OSU and Wisconsin right now..but jmo.
Just noticed Torvik has MSU ahead of Illinois at 22 vs 25. (Wisky and OSU are 26 and 27)
KenPom has Illinois 18 spots ahead of MSU. (16 vs 34)
Big Jack
- Decatur
I don’t …
Louisville has already been kicking the tires on the top names on their list … Mick Cronin, Jerome Tang, Brad Underwood, Sean Miller, Dusty May, Chris Holtmann …
Now - who do I think they end up with ???
I think Illinois’ ceiling has been much more apparent early on and that’s why we’re rated that way on some sites.
Also analytics is going to be much more reactionary this early in the year. I think kenpom used last year info until January or something like that.
Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
NET Ranking movement for Northwestern ... #48 --> #84. 
You can assume Torvik is using a much higher weight on preseason expectations. I expect them to drop off considerably soon.
Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
Louisville is arguably a Blue Blood job (IMO, they are in a 2-team category with Indiana ... either you call both Blue Bloods are neither Blue Boods), they have great facilities, great fan support and (I believe) a lot of money. The questions for me considering taking that job are:
1. Will the fan base give me enough time to dig them out of that DEEP hole? People were even starting to get antsy with Underwood when we lost the 2019-20 Braggin' Rights Game and had stunk for 3 years at that point ... and I think our fan base is more patient than Louisville's.
2. Will Louisville's resources keep up with the Jones' if it remains in the ACC perpetually? Neither the Big Ten nor SEC will touch them. So, I'd be making a calculated risk that UL will have such a disproportionate interest in basketball for my entire tenure there that schools like Illinois or Wisconsin (who might currently seem to be in that next tier below UL as far as financial resources) will not pass them up in the relatively near future.
3. Is Louisville's history and support so good to be an asset going forward in and of itself? Utah basketball has a great history, but I'd argue it doesn't mean anywhere near as much going forward as, say, UCLA ... which will ALWAYS have a certain type of draw to it because of its past.
Thought the name sounded familiar
we laugh, but this also hurts us.NET Ranking movement for Northwestern ... #48 --> #84.
The Big Ten is weak this year. If you look at non-conference wins, the only teams with any good wins outside the Big Ten are us, Purdue, Wisconsin, and Ohio State.
Then the Big Ten also has teams with bad losses like MSU to James Madison, Maryland to Davidson and UAB, Penn State to 4 mid-majors, Minnesota to San Francisco, Michigan to Long Beach State, Rutgers to Princeton. Now Northwestern to Chicago State. So more bad losses than good wins for the conference as a whole.
We've only won 1 of our 3 big games. No bad losses, with 2.5 cupcakes left. So the concern is, we're surely not going to go 20-0 in conference. Are we going to slip up against one of these mediocre to weak in conference opponents. Are we going to beat the few teams that can actually give our resume a boost? When it comes time for seeding, is the Big Ten going to be lowered because the overall conference is not strong. Could mean the difference between a 2 or a 3, a 4 or a 5, etc.
Princeton is legit (or appears to be). That Rutgers win isn’t super shiny right now, but they only need to be top 75 for it to become a Q1 win.
Big ten road wins are hard to come by for anyone (ask Purdue). That was at least a moderately large boy game.
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