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sbillini
- st petersburg, fl
I don’t know why people think I’m saying what the Board has to say matters to this case. It obviously doesn’t.
One of my two points is, which I guess isn’t coming off clearly, To the extent this board, and every other board in the country is a reflection of public opinion for matters not related to the school the board is for, it this situation was happening at another school, this board would be jumping to conclusions just from the optics of how it’s handled. If coach K made some calls when a KU player is accused of something in Durham, god help us how this board, and every non-KU board in the country would react. But the KU board is flooded with Coach K is awesome gifs. Regardless of what that actual circumstances of his involvement are.
The Zero tolerance policy is absolutely the correct policy and he definitely should have been suspended when arrested.
TSJ could be completely innocent, but it isn’t the UofI policy that screwed him in this scenario.
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Dude. Anyone know if he’s looking for a body double? I might have a shot.
IlliniKat91
- Chicago, IL
Just like with fan sections though, it's going to look bad if he gets off no matter what. What we're made privy to thanks to some insiders won't be released to the general public. If charges are dropped or it's somehow resolved before going to court, TSJ and the team and the university are going to be absolutely roasted. I'm certain they know that and are preparing for it.
I'm thinking about how I felt about Alabama last year. Even though that player only brought the gun to his friend, we all had some stuff to say about it, and I'm betting very few if any of us followed the case all the way through. That's exactly what every other fan base is about to do to TSJ whether we like it or not and whether everything is above board or not.
The policy is the antithesis of the concept of due process - the accused is assumed to be guilty and action taken, typically detrimental action, without any opportunity to examine the facts other than the fact he was arrested. It can supposedly be "cured" by lifting the suspension at some time in the future, but the irreparable damage has been done and cannot be undone,
Lol, I would love to discuss nuances if we had a separate page for us lawyers.... But I won't venture off here.
I think that your point can apply to any situation, when it comes to fandom(actually, when it comes to this country). We live in a society where we thrive on other people's misfortune, especially when it comes to elite players, elite teams and/or rivals.
Let's take the Dodgers for example. How many people have taken shots at them and have criticized them, MLB and anything surrounding their maneuvers. If that was the Cubs(in my case), I'd be telling everyone how shrewd they're being.
Look at the commentary on the refs before the game even starts. We have people playing victim before the game even starts. ANY time there's a questionable call, we're being picked on, but at the same time...if that same call went in our favor, we'd be celebrating the refs for making the correct call on a close play.
Let's apply that example to recruiting. Anything another team does, we call cheating. If it's us, it's having great connections and being outstanding at operating in the "gray area".
I can give 20 examples of this way of thinking.
Is it really a shock that fans defend their own situation and smirk at the demise of others?
Of course we all want to things to be properly judged and for all parties to come to a sensible and fair conclusion. That goes without saying. However, when we have a gray area in this case....you expect people to not be hopeful and wish the best for our guy?
You can apply this same thought process when it comes to family and friends. If it's people they don't know and there's no affiliation, guilt is assumed. However, when it's in their own household or backyard....people hope for innocence until guilt is proven.
I'm not telling you how to think, but what I am saying that this is 100% the rule and not the exception.
Who was with TSJ at the bar. I doubt he just went to Lawerence to go to the bar alone
Were other Illini athletes with him? Were KU basketball players with him?
I would be interested to see who TSJ as witnesses of the event
Were other Illini athletes with him? Were KU basketball players with him?
I would be interested to see who TSJ as witnesses of the event
This is huge, if true.
O/U #days until court appearance (the basketball one)
It really is legal experts aside, if this is true (big if) the accusers reputation would be trash even if it could not be used in court. If I was a defendants attorney I would be for sure letting my accusers attorney know it was going to become public one way or another.
I prefer the idea that Bill Self is paying off the Lawrence PD because he doesn’t know any other way
…….but TJ is also innocent still
SuperMetroid
- Evanston
There is no accusers attorney in a criminal case. Just the prosecutor and TJ's attorney.
It should be
Krombopulos_Michael
- Aurora, Illinois (that’s a suburb of Chicago)
Applies to everything on this board. It’s a fan message board and our opportunity to discuss things with people who share a common interest.
We need to pool money to settle with the accuser - how do we contribute to tsj freedom fund? I’m not joking btw. I once was arrested for not paying my cab fare, and while in court, the judge lambasted me for not settling in cash directly w the cab driver prior to wasting everyone’s time in court. The driver had somehow gotten my phone number and called like a week before court, asking me to settle.
Everybody can guess this or that about what happened or is going to happen but there are only 2 People that know the real truth! Let's just let it play out.
It’s a very relatable allegation and should make people question how they handle educating adolescents about consent.
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