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TheDrinkinLincoln
illini0440 said:
Nothing that will ever come out. He just mishandled some things
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I guess as long as it isn't going to come out and doesn't have anything to do with mental or physical health of anyone, a gaf in handling something is something we knew we'd kind of have to live with. He earned the Bert moniker for similar reasons and still one of if not the most competent Illinois Football coach I have lived through.
 
#188      
illini0440
Fighter of the Nightman said:
No need for mocking, I’d love to hear your opinion, and I’d respect it. But there’s more instate talent here, and they split it with MSST. They have a meh history, and so do we. They play on possibly the hardest division in football, and we play in … TBD but NOT harder than the SEC West. Whatever NIL money is there for a consistently top 15 Ole Miss program is easily matched by a top 15 Illini program… We have more alumni, richer alumni and significantly more non-alumni instate fans like me.

The only argument, IMO, that Ole Miss is a clearly better job is recent record … and I’m sorry, but that’s the logic that says Baylor is a better job than UCLA. Again, I’ll defer to actual insider information … but comparing Illinois today to Ole Miss today isn’t an argument by itself … Alabama basketball is NOT a better job than UCLA. And the pieces are there at Illinois at least as much as at Ole Miss, if you ask me.
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Where does that talent in state here go? Down south. In the last 20 years Ole Miss has finished over .500 14 times in the hardest conference in college football…..we’ve done it 4 times….and that’s being in the west since 2014….Ole Miss sells out every game and the tailgating scene there is second to non. They have support there that I’m not sure were could ever get here for football.
 
#189      
skyIdub
illini0440 said:
Where does that talent in state here go? Down south. In the last 20 years Ole Miss has finished over .500 14 times in the hardest conference in college football…..we’ve done it 4 times….and that’s being in the west since 2014….Ole Miss sells out every game and the tailgating scene there is second to non. They have support there that I’m not sure were could ever get here for football.
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Fighter of the Nightman
illini0440 said:
Where does that talent in state here go? Down south. In the last 20 years Ole Miss has finished over .500 14 times in the hardest conference in college football…..we’ve done it 4 times….and that’s being in the west since 2014….Ole Miss sells out every game and the tailgating scene there is second to non. They have support there that I’m not sure were could ever get here for football.
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But where is the vision here? Nick Saban keeps IL talent home better than he keeps MS talent home, I’d bet. And even if he doesn’t, the class from IL talent is better. Who gives a crap about past history? Facilities, alumni base, recruiting base, etc. are better at Illinois … just need a recruiter who can get high school kids to see that. Otherwise Minnesota would still be a national power based off of their prestige from the 1950s.
 
#195      
Kendall Gill’s Uncle
I’m not them, but Ole Miss is a better job than Illinois. They live in an absolutely football crazy part of the country, they definitely have more NIL for football than us and they are the most popular sport on campus. Their state has a ton of football talent also (I mean one of our best recruits last year is from there). They consistently have winning records in the hardest division in college football. Just look at their football gameday/tailgate experience and you can see why it’s a better job.

This argument about Nick Saban is ridiculous. He’d go to Ole Miss over Illinois every time. He’d bring in kids from all over the South just like he did at Bama.

I love Illinois football but let’s be honest Ole Miss has been more relevant over the last 20 years than we have and that matters. Win and recruits will come. Win and your job will be better.
 
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OB positive
skyIdub said:
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I went to a track meet there in 2008. The setup was awesome. When a race finished they immediately posted the results with names and times on a scoreboard. Even the sprints were up there within a minute of the finish. Might be more common than what I think but I had never seen that before.
 
#198      
BashCtIllini
illini0440 said:
Where does that talent in state here go? Down south. In the last 20 years Ole Miss has finished over .500 14 times in the hardest conference in college football…..we’ve done it 4 times….and that’s being in the west since 2014….Ole Miss sells out every game and the tailgating scene there is second to non. They have support there that I’m not sure were could ever get here for football.
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All that needs to be said is Ole Miss is a football school in the football crazy south, in the football craziest conference in America. Illinois is a basketball school. Basketball may not be every fans favorite, but if there is a basketball game and a football game on at the same time, 75% of Illini fans are tuning into that basketball game; 95% of Ole Miss fans are tuning into the football game.

That makes a big difference.
 
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Illiniguy74
Fighter of the Nightman said:
I’ll defer to you as an insider, but I’m not convinced a 10-year ceiling at Ole Miss is higher than at Illinois. Ole Miss is unquestionably in a better position as a program right now.

(I also didn’t know about the difference in titles, so my bad there … was purely discussing Illinois vs. Ole Miss as destinations.)
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Learning from Lane Kiffin ain't a bad thing either.
 
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