CoHawk does several things well that NBA scouts like. This is not to say he’s definitely gone, but that he has enough of the skills that translate to the modern NBA game and will be several teams might consider spending a second round pick on. It’s up to CoHawk whether the dollar value is better there, overseas or back in Champaign.
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CoHawk does several things well that NBA scouts like. This is not to say he’s definitely gone, but that he has enough of the skills that translate to the modern NBA game and will be several teams might consider spending a second round pick on. It’s up to CoHawk whether the dollar value is better there, overseas or back in Champaign.
Jay Wright told BU he couldn't dabble in it, he needed to commit to it. BU (Tyler) had already implemented it in a minor role.
Joel Goodson
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$ article, kid's a baller, really want:
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
He will be a second rounder. I wouldn't put a first rounder out of the realm of possibility.
And he already got a huge NIL bag this year, it's not like it's a life-changing financial question.
He put out good consistent tape on himself this year, this is an unusually weak draft, he's graduating and his cohort of players are moving on.
It's time.
The odds are far greater of Coleman Hawkins returning next year to the Illini than being drafted in the first round. I agree he could get picked in the 2nd round but, in my opinion, getting big time money from Illinois and returning on a top 15 team and trying to get a first round contract is a significantly better decision then going in second round. Second round NBA pick is a dangerous and usually fruitless path. With NIL, I don’t know why any would take 2nd NBA over NIL.
Perhaps this would give him a chance to get his knee right and improve his numbers across the board....
I'd love to have Coleman Hawkins but i dont know how much additional improvement (vs regression in stats) to expect after this year - improved almost every category across the board with ~38% 3pt.
Damonte shot the ball right away. Maybe nit at a high rate but he was allowed to do so. He attempted shots and was allowed to do so. Ty has not even attempted one 3 in his career at Illinois. What are the odds Ty takes an attempt from 3 today? 30 to 1 or more. I am from Peoria and know Damontes game vs Tys. Damonte was allowed to shoot 3s and Ty has never been. Its not the same thing. Ty isn't all the sudden going to be shooting many 3s if any. I dint recall any shots in 2 years outside 10 feet. I'm sure he has been working in ut but we have better options and its great Ty plays to his strengths like.coach is tell him to.So you think he'll just play four full years without shooting? Do you not remember DMFW?
Open your mind a little!
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skyIdub
Winged Warrior
Ok. I wasn't talking in terms of 3's. I was talking more about booty ball like MD which was my first post. So yes it's not the same thing.
I used DMFW as an example of someone who wasn't a good shooter but did all the other things...similar to Ty.....but then started to improve his shooting.
Whether it's 3's or around the rim like MD......my point is he can improve. Just like Damonte.
So in that respect...it's exactly the same.
Ty can certainly improve a mid range because he takes a few of those and I think Ty will but its not the same thing because DMW got better at 3s too and had to be closely guarded from the outside. I question Ty improves that part of his game like DMW did. Ty excels at what he does well and I hope he gets better attacking the rim, finishing, and FTs like he has started to this year.
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blackdog
- Champaign
The thing working in Colemans favor this year is that the draft is historically weak. If he waits another year he might improve himself but he would also be in a pool with much better prospects too.
blackdog
- Champaign
He was a freshman during the COVID year so he does get the extra year.
sacraig
- The desert
Ty doesn’t even attempt to shoot. In 2 years I haven’t seen him take a jump shot from any distance. I don’t ever remember us having another player who did not shoot at all. Even George Montgomery tried a short shot occasionally. (I wish he hadn’t).
It’s hard to imagine someone with the talent and athleticism of Ty not being able to conquer a wide open 17 ft. Jump shot. Imagine how much better he could be with a reasonably good jump shot.
He does still manage to score some though which is a real tribute to his other basketball skills.
All in on DGL if we don't win it all this go round he will be here when we do!!!
Best comparison I have for Coleman for NBA success is Tayshaun Prince. Similiar height and style, more facilitor and swiss army variety of skills. Prince was drafted around #24-25 and had a long NBA career.
He wasn't on the 19-20 team where the tournament was canceled and everyone got a free year.
My understanding was that the 20-21 freshmen got 6 years, but could still only play 4, but I guess that's wrong?
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ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
I'm no insider but I strongly disagree.
The old refrain of "improve your game and raise your stock for the next draft" doesn't work for a guy like Coleman who has had a great year, shown what he has consistently, and would be leaving a weak draft to enter a much stronger one as a 5th year player. His best chance of sticking as an NBA player is right now.
It's possible he isn't drafted and doesn't end up on an NBA roster. It's possible he'd be turning down the most money he will ever make playing basketball in his life by not coming back to Illinois.
But unlike Kofi Cockburn, Coleman Hawkins profiles as an NBA player and so it's reasonable for him to target his pro future rather than just maximizing his college earnings (which are already considerable). Doesn't seem like a remotely close call to me with that as his aim.
Instant offense, when he's on he's unstoppable
blackdog
- Champaign
20-21 was the year that didn't count in terms of eligibility because there was no guarantee what would happen with the season.
I would like BU to keep recruiting "booty-ball" type players along with long arms.
Mgbako back to Indiana. Kids going to be a he** of a player and prolly Big10 first team
I could envision it to a degree with the baby hook and pivoting for a layup for sure.
Are fade-away jumpers near the basket and middle-of-lane jumpers considered a part of Booty Ball?
If so, then you need to clear your mind and not compare it to MD's version of Booyt Ball.
That's a great point. However, I believe he will grow and not rush his shots, thus, increasing his 3-point shot percentage, and being more of an unselfish player by driving and dishing out more.
Ty grew tremendously, I believe, and so will DGL.
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